[quote=PT Again;190906]You didn't bother to read the rest of the argument. No sense in you addressing things out of context.

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The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.

-- Hitler, April 11 1942

Put forth an argument here.......I cant assume what your position is

It was pretty simple. You can't close the border and even if you did, you can't enforce it.

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The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.

-- Hitler, April 11 1942

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Of course i read the rest.........but it was just you beating around the bush on why you think its not pandering........

[quote=PT Again;190916]No, it was a reasonable assessment of the situation.

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The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.

-- Hitler, April 11 1942

So i guess we just suck it up and let any body and every body that can get to the Mexico border in? great plan.............i suggest you run on that platform

No, but Obama has already increased border patrols to heights more than any President. He's deported more violators than any other President. He makes everyone before him look like a damned door mat and all you can do is complain.

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The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.

-- Hitler, April 11 1942

OK let me make this simple..........He is doing what democrats to best...........throwing MONEY at a problem without addressing the problem. The people they are deporting have already commited a crime in this country, the damage is already done. And they are coming right back. This problem need to be attacked from a totally different angle. The jobs angle. fix this issue and self deportation will rise and legal immigration will rise.

You can't enforce the jobs angle because you'd have to spend even more to go that route, hiring investegators, sending them EVERYWHERE across the US. You can't have it both ways. Either we're going to do what's financially realistic (what Obama is doing) or we can lose our minds and spend to oblivion (what you suggest).

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The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.

-- Hitler, April 11 1942

It is NOT financially realistic to spend 25000 per deport to send the same person back across the border over and over............thats the classic case of insanity..........doing the dame thing over and over expecting a different result......damn i thought you were smarter than that. The programs to catch these illegals is already in place, but not used.......you cant tell me that their computers cant tell when the same social secuity number is linked to 30 jobs at a time?