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Old 10-06-2010, 09:18 AM
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Default Report: Taliban chiefs enter secret talks with government to end war

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Secret talks to end the war in Afghanistan have begun between representatives of the Taliban and the government of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, The Washington Post reported on its website Tuesday night.
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Afghan and Arab sources cited by the Post said they believe for the first time that Taliban representatives are fully authorized to speak for the Quetta Shura, the Afghan Taliban organization based in Pakistan, and its leader, Mohammad Omar, according to the newspaper. The sources requested anonymity to discuss the development.
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Omar's representatives have shunned negotiations in the past, insisting that all foreign troops withdraw first.

However, the Post reported that its sources said the Quetta Shura has begun to talk about a comprehensive agreement that would include participation of some Taliban figures in the government and the withdrawal of U.S. and NATO troops.
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"They are very, very serious about finding a way out," one source close to the talks said of the Taliban, the Post reported.

The source told the Post said the leadership of the Taliban believed "they are going to be sidelined."
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"They know that more radical elements are being promoted within their rank and file outside their control," the source told the paper. "All these things are making them absolutely sure that, regardless of [their success in] the war, they are not in a winning position."
Report: Taliban chiefs in secret talks to end war - World news - South and Central Asia - Afghanistan - msnbc.com

Karzai long has said he will talk to insurgents if they renounce violence, sever ties to terrorists and embrace the Afghan constitution.
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Reconciling with Taliban leaders is being "pursued by the Afghan leadership at the very highest levels," Petraeus said.
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He said conditions laid down by Karzai that the Taliban respect the constitution and stop fighting were "very clear, very established and, certainly, we support them as we did in Iraq, as the U.K. did in Northern Ireland; this is how you end these kinds of insurgencies," The New York Times reported.

The Afghan government last week also set up a 70-member peace council, formalizing efforts to reconcile with Taliban leaders and lure insurgent foot soldiers off the battlefield.
Preliminary for sure, but I suspect after 9 years and with the new kids on the block breathing down their necks, the Taliban leaders and generals are growing weary as is the west...
stay tuned.
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I love to hear about secret talk between terrorists and a duplicate aly. Always promising.
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Secret talks to end the war in Afghanistan have begun between representatives of the Taliban and the government of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, The Washington Post reported on its website Tuesday night.









So much for secrets.......
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If they're secret how come salty knows about them?
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Secret talks to end the war in Afghanistan have begun between representatives of the Taliban and the government of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, The Washington Post reported on its website Tuesday night.









So much for secrets.......

You know what they say about secrets....If more than one person knows it's not a secret.
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Based on what I know of Taliban, I personally don't see this as a positive development. They are extremely agressive and oppressive, and they will easily manipulate Karzai and assume control imo. I hope I'm wrong.
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Based on what I know of Taliban, I personally don't see this as a positive development. They are extremely agressive and oppressive, and they will easily manipulate Karzai and assume control imo. I hope I'm wrong.
Like the "Palestinians" they will negotiate for a chance to rearm, accumulate supplies and manpower or when they have taken heavy losses in leadership or skilled fighters.
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Like the "Palestinians" they will negotiate for a chance to rearm, accumulate supplies and manpower or when they have taken heavy losses in leadership or skilled fighters.
They are much more agressive and opportunistic than the palestinians, and seem to be more driven by religious ideology. It's a mistake to negotiate with them.
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They are much more agressive and opportunistic than the palestinians, and seem to be more driven by religious ideology. It's a mistake to negotiate with them.
Palestinians Not so agressive, opportunistic or exceptionally driven by religious ideology. Got it. Sorry it wasn't that obvious.
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Palestinians Not so agressive, opportunistic or exceptionally driven by religious ideology. Got it. Sorry it wasn't that obvious.


Opportunistic yes, agressive yes. In my observation, they aren't nearly as driven by religion, or nearly as agressive politically as Taliban.
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