Boy killed by Border Patrol agents had several arrests for smuggling immigrants - Page 2

mlurp · #11 (**permalink**) 06-27-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Billo_Really

Oh please, when have you ever heard of an incident where someone died from a rock attack?

Gee if you were not defending them you might know about:

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Stoning to Death in Iran:

A Crime Against Humanity
Carried Out By the Mullahs' Regime
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Stoning women to death in Iran

A Special Case Study
The stoning of women is one of the more savage, and revealing aspects of the mullahs' rule in Iran. This vicious punishment of women is without precedent in Iran's recent history. Since the inception of the mullahs' rule, hundreds of women of various ages have been and continue to be stoned to death throughout Iran.

What makes this hideous crime even more abhorrent is that it is carried out under the name of Islam. The Quran and the Prophet of Islam despised such behavior. On the contrary, in the Quran and the Prophet's traditions, such barbarism is denounced. The Prophet did his utmost to eradicate backward traditions, including stoning, which victimized women.

The authorities of the Islamic Republic have attempted to explain away stoning in Iran, as noted in the report by the U.N. Special Representative on Iran, as something that takes place only in remote and culturally backward areas. Actually, stoning and other cruel punishments are used by the regime to extend their reign of terror, while internationally Tehran tries to deny responsibility. It must be noted that:

1- The responsibility for any inhuman punishment, regardless of where it takes place, lies with the judiciary and the state,

2- Stoning and other cruel punishments taking place in the Islamic Republic of Iran are not a matter of individual discretion; rather, they are defined by the law of the land, and such sentences are issued based on these laws.

The penalty for adultery under Article 83 of the penal code, called the Law of Hodoud is flogging (100 lashes of the whip) for unmarried male and female offenders. Married offenders may be punished by stoning regardless of their gender, but the method laid down for a man involves his burial up to his waist, and for a woman up to her neck (article 102). The law provides that if a person who is to be stoned manages to escape, he or she will be allowed to go free. Since it is easier for a man to escape, this discrimination literally becomes a matter of life and death.

Interestingly, Article 6 (2) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, which Iran has ratified, states: "Sentence of death may be imposed only for the most serious crimes in accordance with the law in force at the time of the commission of the crime." Offenses for which the Law of Hodoud provides the death penalty do not involve murder or serious bodily harm, constituting the "most serious crimes".

Article 104 of the Law of Hodoud provides that the stones should not be so large that a person dies after being hit with two of them, nor so small as to be defined as pebbles, but must cause severe injury. This makes it clear that the purpose of stoning is to inflict grievous pain on the victim, in a process leading to his or her slow death.
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Stoning to Death in Iran: A Crime Against Humanity Carried Out By the Mullahs' Regime

AZRWinger · #12 (**permalink**) 06-27-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Billo_Really

The reason that boy is dead, is because this country has lost its moral compass and a whole generation of American's have grown up with very little, daily human contact, which has resulted in a loss of any sense of humanity. All our interaction is through television, radio, emails, cell phones and faxes. No human contact. War is like a video game. This border death is like Kiefer Sutherlands 24. These blogs have replaced the rule of law.

Your so right Billo! This country will so much better off when we have 12+ hours a day of government supervised human contact working side by side at subsistence agriculture with sharpened sticks. That will be the more fair and united country the Dear Leader spoke about in the summer of "Hope" and "Change" back in 2008.

MrLiberty · #13 (**permalink**) 06-27-2010, 12:03 PM

Let's understand that a kid is dead because he broke at least a few of our laws. If he was smuggling in illegals what other substances did he bring into the country?

The boys parents may be saying what a good kid he was, I here that all the time when a 13 or 14 year old steals a car and kills someone here in Detroit.

If you want to blame anyone for the death of this boy, blame the politicians who have refused to secure our borders and have let the illegals run the show down in AZ and the other states.

mlurp · #14 (**permalink**) 06-27-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MrLiberty

Let's understand that a kid is dead because he broke at least a few of our laws. If he was smuggling in illegals what other substances did he bring into the country?

The boys parents may be saying what a good kid he was, I here that all the time when a 13 or 14 year old steals a car and kills someone here in Detroit.

If you want to blame anyone for the death of this boy, blame the politicians who have refused to secure our borders and have let the illegals run the show down in AZ and the other states.

We get the same thing here when a gang member is caught for home break ins, killings etc. But the parent has no control over their child actions. What else is a parent going to do?

I agree this is a political crime by politicians.

It is a shame the boy died. But how many others might have died by him bringing in illegals. When some of them are worst than our own criminals. Not all of them but more and more are into crime.

Dave1 · #15 (**permalink**) 06-27-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MrLiberty

If you want to blame anyone for the death of this boy, blame the politicians who have refused to secure our borders and have let the illegals run the show down in AZ and the other states.

.........well said.........

KogaTheGreat · #16 (**permalink**) 06-27-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

It is a shame the boy died. But how many others might have died by him bringing in illegals. When some of them are worst than our own criminals. Not all of them but more and more are into crime.

Should we just kill bed-wetters, animal hurting, and fire loving children?
Because those are "signs" according to psychologists of future murderers.

Just think of all the innocent people we'd be saving...and then a simple "it's a shame" would suffice.

Obviously they dont ALL turn out that way...but it's worth it, no?

I mean, most murderers get a death penalty anyway, so it's not really changing anything, except now you've saved the victims. yay.

mlurp · #17 (**permalink**) 06-27-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KogaTheGreat

Should we just kill bed-wetters, animal hurting, and fire loving children?
Because those are "signs" according to psychologists of future murderers.

Just think of all the innocent people we'd be saving...and then a simple "it's a shame" would suffice.

Obviously they dont ALL turn out that way...but it's worth it, no?

I mean, most murderers get a death penalty anyway, so it's not really changing anything, except now you've saved the victims. yay.

What do you want me to say? A young man lost his life. That is a shame. Also what he did was a shame and might have caused other people the same or a bit less.

And most who murder don't get the DEATH PENALTY except in TX. and then some don't get it.
Most get 15 years up to life... I've seen some get 8 years.

Besides who made you the judge of what I type? Get off your soap box. BLANK

KogaTheGreat · #18 (**permalink**) 06-27-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

What do you want me to say? A young man lost his life. That is a shame. Also what he did was a shame and might have caused other people the same or a bit less.

And most who murder don't get the DEATH PENALTY except in TX. and then some don't get it.
Most get 15 years up to life... I've seen some get 8 years.

Besides who made you the judge of what I type? Get off your soap box. BLANK

If some can say "good job" I can say otherwise. Unless that hurts your feelings. aww. Now I feel bad

Anyway, only 8 years? Oh, yay. I'm going to be a serial killer one day.
Of, course, I actually want the death penalty...and not the needle...
If they want to kill me, they better bring out the chair!

mlurp · #19 (**permalink**) 06-27-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KogaTheGreat

If some can say "good job" I can say otherwise. Unless that hurts your feelings. aww. Now I feel bad

Anyway, only 8 years? Oh, yay. I'm going to be a serial killer one day.
Of, course, I actually want the death penalty...and not the needle...
If they want to kill me, they better bring out the chair!

No my feeling aren't hurt. But I am a bit upset you pick my post to blast.

And yes check out the sticky in the Curent News, about "Local news and editorials" and click the "cj online" or any of the state online news link every now and again.

The one about 8 years was up in the northwest an illegal who killed his girlfriend. Whom was sent back before the killing which he came over the southern boarder again and did it.

That is a shame to. But the shame is also on the Politicians for doing nothing and Obama for wanting to fight AZ., over their laws.

So you missed the point to pick on me... And I hope you don't get your wish. You should be around when it gets worst..

Next time look at the title a second time as this isn't about me or you.

PinkSpoon · #20 (**permalink**) 06-27-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave1

1.) I don't think he said that. The kid made some very bad decisions that lead to his own demise......

2.) That or the fact that the US will not build a fence, protect it's borders from illegal entry allowing thugs and drug runners to reek havoc, murder and kill to make money in their criminal everyday existance.......

Yep. Choices and consequences. One of the problems in our society is that people don't want to live the consequences of their choices and too many others are willing to enable that.

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