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Old 03-24-2010, 02:03 PM
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Default Both house and senate health bills require the micro chipping of americans – 3/18/10

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Sec. 2521, Pg. 1000 – The government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. What does a National Medical Device Registry mean?

National Medical Device Registry from H.R. 3200 [Healthcare Bill], pages 1001-1008:

(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that— ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘(B)and is— ‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”

Then on page 1004 it describes what the term “data” means in paragraph 1,

section B:
‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to information respecting a device described in paragraph (1), including claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary”

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is an “implantable radio frequency transponder system for patient identification and health information.” The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as “claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary.”

See it for yourself: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Medical.../ucm072191.pdf

This new law – when fully implemented – provides the framework for making the United States the first nation in the world to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.

Don’t believe it? Look it up yourself. Healthcare Bill H.R. 3200: http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/...CA09001xml.pdf

Pages 1001-1008 “National Medical Device Registry” section.
Page 1006 “to be enacted within 36 months upon passage”
Page 503 “… medical device surveillance”

Why would the government use the word “surveillance” when referring to citizens? The definition of “surveillance” is the monitoring of the behavior, activities, or other changing information, usually of people and often in a secret manner. The root of the word [French] means to “watch over.”

In theory, the intent to streamline healthcare and to eliminate fraud via “health chips” seems right. But, to have the world’s lone superpower (America, for now) mandate (page 1006) a device to be IMPLANTED is scary!


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Default Re: Both house and senate health bills require the micro chipping of americans – 3/18

First you gotta lay off the Kool-aid, Then I would suggest you find sources that don't include the price of gold and silver on them, .

How convenient that people would interpret the wording on the healthcare bill to fit the whole doomsday, Obama is the AntiChrist dogma. Very crafty indeed, .

What does a National Medical Device Registry mean?

Medical Devices Today: House Health Reform Bill Calls For Sweeping National Device Registry
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Scary for sure.

I was wondering if all service connected veterans are part of that every citizen
has to get insurance and now this..

Well they have to come and get me as I won't get any implant. All my info is on my VA card... or so I was told.
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Scary for sure.

I was wondering if all service connected veterans are part of that every citizen
has to get insurance and now this..

Well they have to come and get me as I won't get any implant. All my info is on my VA card... or so I was told.
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/...CA09001xml.pdf

Might want to read page 1004, mlurp.......
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First you gotta lay off the Kool-aid, Then I would suggest you find sources that don't include the price of gold and silver on them, .

How convenient that people would interpret the wording on the healthcare bill to fit the whole doomsday, Obama is the AntiChrist dogma. Very crafty indeed, .

What does a National Medical Device Registry mean?

Medical Devices Today: House Health Reform Bill Calls For Sweeping National Device Registry


AND YOU DOUBT THAT THESE PEOPLE WOULD DO THIS???

You need to come out of your COMA and join us in the REAL WORLD!!!!

I'm sure that the government cares just about you and your healthcare..
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A response to this fear-mongering rumor from opencongress.org

The Latest Healthcare Rumor: Microchip Implants - Blog - OpenCongress
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And yet, there it is in black and white words in the bill

Anybody stupid enough to believe these people at this point deserves what they get....
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http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/...CA09001xml.pdf

Might want to read page 1004, mlurp.......
My second question who can translate this BS?

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1004
1 gram under title XVIII of the
2 Social Security Act or from the health systems of the
3 Department of Veterans Affairs);
4 ‘‘(II) private sector health-related
5 electronic data (such as pharmaceutical
6 purchase data and health insurance claims
7 data); and
8 ‘‘(III) other data as the Secretary
9 deems necessary to permit postmarket as10
sessment of device safety and effectiveness;
11 and
12 ‘‘(ii) link data obtained under clause (i)
13 with information in the registry.
14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary.
21 ‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the
22 enactment of this subsection, the Secretary shall promul23
gate regulations for establishment and operation of the
24 registry under paragraph (1). Such regulations—
And how does this have a thing to do with HC and reduction of total cost all that comes after this. A device costs extra money to implant it cost extra and to give this BS HC Plan to people who have Govt. HC already is so stupid, enless there is a motive we know nothing about. Thats the scary part...

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A BILL
To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans
and reduce the growth in health care spending, and
for other purposes.


1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa2
tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
3 SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF DIVISIONS, TITLES,
4 AND SUBTITLES.
5 (a) SHORT TITLE.—This Act may be cited as the
6 ‘‘America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009’’.
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Hummm A bit old, and doesn't really debunk a thing see the highlighted

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September 8, 2009 - by Donny Shaw
There’s a new rumor going around about the Democrats’ healthcare bill that’s so absurd and off-base that I hesitate to even bring it up here in order to debunk it. The rumor, which is being spread mostly in online forums and hasn’t yet received any kind of validation from a national political figure, is that the bill would require all Americans to get a microchip embedded in their body so the government can track them.

Or, at least, I think that’s what they are claiming. I’ve seen a few variations, including claims that everyone would need to get the microchips, only people who enroll in the public option would have to get it, and that the bill doesn’t require the implants, but it leaves it open to the government to decide after it is passed if they want to require them. You can view forum threads on the topic here, here, here and here, for examples. The rumor first came to my attention when someone wrote into the OpenCongress Facebook group asking for information on it.
Why hasn't any political figure stepped forward. And if it wasn't meant to apply why was it in the bill?

I think you LIBERALs have got a shock coming when we know the REAL thruth about this entire HC Bill.

Sense the Nam, I have come to except the worst from the Federal Govt. I stopped trusting them a long while ago.

So I won't be shocked... Disgusted yes but not shocked.
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And yet, there it is in black and white words in the bill

Anybody stupid enough to believe these people at this point deserves what they get....
Could you please post the "black and white words" in the law that was just passed that state we will be microchipped?
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