WH: Some Critics 'Serving the Goals of al Qaeda' - Political Punch

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It seems to me that when Bush was in office and the dems were critical it was free speech and the first amendment. Now, however, that the shoe is on the other foot the critics are "serving the goals of al queda."

Does anyone on the left SEE the double standard? Somehow I doubt it!

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Seems to be the same people who said the US was imperialist and engaged in an illegal war and killing innocent Muslim women and children and torturing and we were losing the war and the terrorist were winning and Bush and Cheney were war criminals on and on and on without a concern of how it all emboldened our enemies.

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How the heck can you just pretend that we're just talking about ANY presidential criticism here...

When you have Republicans trying to strike fear in American hearts, proclaiming that the country is at risk heightened risk under the current administration, THAT is what is being discussed.
Can you show how Democrats tried to achieve striking fear in American hearts???



Maybe someday you'll realize it isn't...
... or even better, you'll restrict those comments to talking to the rare people that deserve them.

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Back to the original topic, f66. Do you see that there is a double standard being applied wherein when criticism of teh Bush admin's policies on terrorism were considered a bad thing and when criticism of the Obama admins virtually identical policy comes up, suddenly it's a bad thing. I know you want to do a "B-b-but Bush...", but try to maintain a minimal level of objectivity and stick the topic and maybe even take off the rosy glasses take an honest look at what's being said here.

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Giving a liberal facts is like throwing bacon at a vegetarian. All it does it piss off the vegetarian and waste good bacon.

I WAS on the original topic FS.
LOOK at the article and what it was talking about...

From the article: "Politically motivated criticism and unfounded fear-mongering only serve the goals of al-Qaeda."
I am EXACTLY on topic.

If you guys don't want to talk about the article, then DO NOT QUOTE IT in your pretense to have a point...


What is it with some people and a refusal to listen.
You guys paint with a broad brush, proclaiming that you are comparing two apples, and refusing to recognize it is an apple and an orange.

It is NOT JUST "criticism of admin's policies on terrorism".
It is criticism of admin's policies on terrorism THAT MAKE PEOPLE AFRAID of impending terror attacks.

At the rate you're going, why restrict it to just "policies on terrorism"?
Why not just claim it's about "criticism of the Bush admin" and "criticism of the Obama admin" and pretend it's just about any criticism.
Oh wait.
The first poster already did that...


That's just dumb.
The original poster AND YOURSELF have already introduced Bush into this topic...
... you two have ALREADY COMPARED Obama and Bush!!!
So complaining about whether or not I do is just BEYOND absurd...

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Republicans have a sweet racket because they run on "government is ineffective," and then when they **** things up, they go, "See." – Bill Maher

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint.
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist."
--Dom Hélder Pessoa Câmara

We can go 2 ways with this...

If you meant "during Bush and dealing with national security", I'm sure I can whip up about 6 or 700,000 articles with Democrats yelling how Bush's tactics are increasing Al Qaeda recruitment and making the country FAR less safe...

If you are just being generic and in the present then we can go with the Democrats trying to "achieve striking fear in American hearts" by telling us we HAVE to support cap-and-trade or the planet will die and we HAVE to support their taking over industries or the economy will crumble and we HAVE to support their stimulus packages or we'll never recover and we HAVE to support their version of healthcare or we'll all die in tents huddled outside our foreclosed houses that were taken because of a sprained knee...

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Quite frankly, I agree that he increased al Qaeda recruitment.
But trying to extend that to "FAR less safe" is too much of a stretch.

And I would agree that any Democrat who ACTUALLY DID that, claiming that our nation was under heightened danger because of that, would be serving terrorist goals.

But then again, you are severely exaggerating how many articles reached a conclusion of "FAR less safe".

Quite frankly, I saw the issue as a hindrance to winning "the war on terror".
There were stories of people who HATED the taliban JOINING the taliban because they hated the U.S. more.
That didn't mean more suicide bombers coming over here.
That meant more people with guns aiming them at our military personnel in a foreign country.


No.
There is no point in that.

If you have somebody who is phobic about green-house gases, does that do anything to further al Qaeda's ACTUAL goals?
Their terrorist goal is to make us so afraid of them that we consider that before acting against THEM.

They could care less of whether or not we're afraid of spiders or snakes or greenhouse gases.
So no. I am not being that generic.

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Republicans have a sweet racket because they run on "government is ineffective," and then when they **** things up, they go, "See." – Bill Maher

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint.
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist."
--Dom Hélder Pessoa Câmara

I see the same political game being played regardless who's in the WH.......

You mentioned what the dems did when Bush was LOTFW, if that bothered you then, doesn't what the republicans are doing to Obama today equally upset your
sense of fair play......?

If not, then double standards seems to fit the bill for both parties........

How can you even begin to assert that the Republicans are doing anything near what the Dems did? The Democrats voted to fully support the war in Iraq, and then when it turned politically adverse they engaged in their lies and propaganda. Have the Republicans stated the war is lost? That Obama is a war criminal? That Obama wants to capture and torture? That Obama is an imperialist who wants to occupy ME countries?

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1.) You haven't been paying attention if you think that Obama is getting a free ride from conservatives. Listen to Rush and Hannity and Bill-O and Beck for a week and get back with me on their "support"........

2.) Hmmm, to hear you tell it, it's was the democrats idea to invade Iraq in the first place..... BTW, after years of Rummy's failure on "stay the course", hell yes democrats complained. That's their job when they see a bad plan, our two party system was built just for that....

3.) Your speaking about the fringe element of the democrat party. The squeaky wheels so to speak. Don't paint the majority of moderate dems with that brush. The war under Rummy was going no where, complaining about that was good. Some of the GITMO tortue stuff turned out to be valid, again questions were worthy.......

Let's talk about fringe conservatives on your side that think that Obama is evil and has a plan to bring down America. He's called a Muslim and a Marxist, socialist, commie that hates the USA.......

Blah, blah, blah........


Don't think for even a minute that there is a dimes worth of difference on double standards from either party.........