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Pyongyang wants nuclear talks in exchange for treaty as US envoy describes North Korea's human rights record as appalling

North Korea today called for a formal peace treaty with the US as a precondition for its return to international talks about the country's nuclear programme.

However, in an apparent signal of Washington's scepticism about closer ties with the reclusive dictatorship, the US's new envoy on North Korea's human rights described Pyongyang's record on the issue as "appalling".

North Korea's foreign ministry said it wanted peace talks with Washington to work towards a more formal accord to replace the truce which ended the 1950-53 Korean war, bringing about Korea's separation. This would be a means for the North to re-enter six-party nuclear discussions involving the two Koreas, the US, China, Japan and Russia.

"If confidence is to be built between [North Korea] and the US, it is essential to conclude a peace treaty for terminating the state of war, a root cause of the hostile relations, to begin with," the official Korean Central News Agency quoted the foreign ministry as saying.

"The removal of the barrier of such discrimination and distrust as sanctions may soon lead to the opening of the six-party talks."

North Korea has boycotted the talks since April last year, shortly before it prompted grave international concern by announcing it had carried out a nuclear test. Before this, Pyongyang had begun to disable nuclear facilities in return for overseas aid.

There will be widespread mistrust in the US and elsewhere about North Korea's motives for making this offer. In October the country said it might be willing to go back to the six-party talks, but this was seen as a sop to the Chinese premier, Wen Jiabao, who was then visiting the country.

Washington has said it will discuss a peace treaty – North and South Korea remain technically at war – only after the North gets rid of its nuclear capabilities. The US special envoy, Stephen Bosworth, held inconclusive talks with Pyongyang in December to try to get the six-party talks restarted.

Barack Obama's new envoy on human rights in North Korea, Robert King, signalled today that the US was not willing to be quiet about abuses in the country, described by Amnesty International and similar groups as including routine forced labour and torture for political dissidents and their families, and arbitrary execution and imprisonment.

"It is one of the worst places in terms of the lack of human rights. The situation is appalling," Robert King told reporters in Seoul on his first trip to the region since taking up the post about six weeks ago, Reuters reported.

"A relationship with the US and North Korea will have to involve human rights," he said.

Obama's secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, was today setting off on a tour of Australasia and the Pacific during which she will meet Japan's foreign minister on a stopover in Hawaii. Clinton's 10-day trip will include Australia, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea.

North Korea calls for peace treaty with US | World news | guardian.co.uk

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Geeez. Every time I read things like this it reminds me how juvenile we are as a species. I can't believe nobody can outsmart this yoyo. It always reminds me of teenage girls. "I'm not talking to her. So there"
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Geeez. Every time I read things like this it reminds me how juvenile we are as a species. I can't believe nobody can outsmart this yoyo. It always reminds me of teenage girls. "I'm not talking to her. So there"
It's not a matter of out-smarting him, it's a matter of the fact that NK has Seoul held hostage to it's demands. Seoul is within easy reach of NK's artillery batteries, making it a huge bargaining chip in any negotiation process. NK has for decades used this as unspoken leverage to get whatever they want, because we have no way stopping them from killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people. We can knock out the artillery emplacements, but not fast enough to stop them getting off a few rounds. And if you think that the only thing NK's artillery shells are loaded with is explosives, then you're simply fooling yourself. ONE NK artillery barrage would probably dump enough chem. weaponry into Seoul to kill half the city. We can stop artillery barrage number 2, but the first one is unstoppable. All of this means that we are negotiating with a country that is using M.A.D. (Mutually Assured Destruction) as a bargaining chip and using it very well.
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They just want more aid since they seem to have a policy of mistreatingtheir own people.
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Widespread mistrust in the US is an understatement....
So trrue but it come for others actions like NK. Plus many defense papers say N. Korea, is our worst problem in the future.

Like many I hope this is a good start with peace the out come.
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So trrue but it come for others actions like NK. Plus many defense papers say N. Korea, is our worst problem in the future.

Like many I hope this is a good start with peace the out come.
I think the key here is China,they need to become far more supportive of our policy.
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I think the key here is China,they need to become far more supportive of our policy.
Very true and I agree. But my point was that these papers, studies etc., are done on one country at a time. I should have mentioned that, but I was trying not to go to deep and get blasted.

Seems I get someone who has a different opinion and they come at me more than I like.
So I try to tone it down and keep it short. Look at the Credit card post I made in the Current news.. DC attacked me for no solid reason. And all I said was so short....

So I try to watch my back... I want to share my opinion deeper but it isn't worth the greef I get.
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Very true and I agree. But my point was that these papers, studies etc., are done on one country at a time. I should have mentioned that, but I was trying not to go to deep and get blasted.

Seems I get someone who has a different opinion and they come at me more than I like.
So I try to tone it down and keep it short. Look at the Credit card post I made in the Current news.. DC attacked me for no solid reason. And all I said was so short....

So I try to watch my back... I want to share my opinion deeper but it isn't worth the greef I get.
I hear ya....some people are just cruising for a fight not Discussion.Anyway..China is a factor here,a major factor!

The US will need to show that North Korea faces some kind of consequence and not just talk about it.One would think that China is much more concerned than they are willing to admit!!! The NK continues to play a game of bluff and extortion. At some point..someone will call their hand.
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Reunification


North Korea wins ...... no longer needs high expenditures for "defense" and gets food and industrial capitalization.
South Korea wins.... war ends.
China wins ...... gets super trading partner and no longer has to support North Korea and lessens "tension".
America.... who cares?
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North Korea wins ...... no longer needs high expenditures for "defense" and gets food and industrial capitalization.
South Korea wins.... war ends.
China wins ...... gets super trading partner and no longer has to support North Korea and lessens "tension".
America.... who cares?
Sure but that's a long way off...maybe 25 years down the road.
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