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Old 12-21-2009, 12:43 AM
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Israel has admitted that pathologists harvested organs from dead Palestinians, and others without the consent of their families – a practice that it said ended in the 1990s, it emerged at the weekend.

The admission, by the former head of the country's forensic institute, followed a furious row prompted by a Swedish newspaper reporting that Israel was killing Palestinians in order to use their organs – a charge that Israel denied and called "antisemitic".

The revelation, in a television documentary, is likely to generate anger in the Arab and Muslim world and reinforce sinister stereotypes of Israel and its attitude to Palestinians. Iran's state-run Press TV tonight reported the story, illustrated with photographs of dead or badly injured Palestinians.

Ahmed Tibi, an Israeli Arab MP, said the report incriminated the Israeli army.

The story emerged in an interview with Dr Yehuda Hiss, former head of the Abu Kabir forensic institute near Tel Aviv. The interview was conducted in 2000 by an American academic who released it because of the row between Israel and Sweden over a report in the Stockholm newspaper Aftonbladet.

Channel 2 TV reported that in the 1990s, specialists at Abu Kabir harvested skin, corneas, heart valves and bones from the bodies of Israeli soldiers, Israeli citizens, Palestinians and foreign workers, often without permission from relatives.

The Israeli military confirmed to the programme that the practice took place, but added: "This activity ended a decade ago and does not happen any longer."

Hiss said: "We started to harvest corneas ... whatever was done was highly informal. No permission was asked from the family."
Absolutely reprehensible. Awful!!!
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:38 AM
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Just as shocking as this policy was is the fact that they would even admit it took place. Usually they're a bit more effective at keeping something like this under wraps.
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Old 12-21-2009, 04:47 AM
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by all means lets keep sending them money
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by all means lets keep sending them money
I agree. I'm all for weaning them off the foreign aid teat.
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Absolutely reprehensible. Awful!!!
Is it just me, or does the headline say, "Doctor admits Israeli pathologists harvested organs without consent." {period}

"Channel 2 TV reported that in the 1990s, specialists at Abu Kabir harvested skin, corneas, heart valves and bones from the bodies of Israeli soldiers, Israeli citizens, Palestinians and foreign workers, often without permission from relatives."

{This article was amended on 21 December 2009. The headline was changed as it did not reflect accurately the contents of the story.} Well, isn't that special?
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:49 AM
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Absolutely reprehensible, yet they did it to their own citizens too and what about other countries and the things they have or are doing... Lets stop borrowing form China because it does this to prisoners from what I have heard.

A google search says this: And I misspelled a word.......
Illegal Human Organ Trade from Executed Prisoners in China

Case Study: 632
Case Name: Prison Organs from China
Case Identification: PRISONORGANS
Illegal Human Organ Trade from Executed Prisoners in China
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Revised Report into Allegations of Organ Harvesting
Chinese Officials Still Killing Falun Gong for Organs, Report Says

The report also addresses how foreign states fund citizens who go to China for transplants. The report contains interviews with organ recipients from various countries and discusses the treatment of Chinese death-row prisoners.

Details of new undercover phone calls to hospitals in China where hospital staff incriminate themselves are also included. There is also more evidence to indicate there are large numbers of detained Falun Gong practitioners who refuse to name themselves and then just disappear.

The report cites 41,500 unexplained organ transplants from 2000 to 2005—the 6-year period since the persecution of Falun Gong began in 1999—that do not come from convicted executed prisoners, the brain-dead, or family donors.


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"Falun Gong practitioners that simply get killed and [their organs] sold to the highest bidder—these are the people we are trying to protect," said Kilgour. The report authors suggest a series of ways to discourage foreigners, who account for a significant number of the organ transplant recipients in China, from seeking organs there.

Foreign states should enact extra-territorial legislation to penalize citizens who receive an organ that was not freely given, said Matas. Moreover, until China stops the practice of organ harvesting from prisoners there should be "no contact with Chinese transplant professionals through training, conferences, and research."

The report authors had other recommendations: doctors should discourage patients from obtaining transplant surgery in China; drug companies should stop sending transplant surgery-related anti-rejection and other drugs to China; and foreign states should ban the export of such drugs to China.

Matas said citizens who get commercial organ transplants abroad should not get reimbursed or get aftercare funding. "Taxpayers should not be paying for that care," he remarked.

The report went a step further and recommended that foreign countries bar the entry of doctors or anyone known to be involved in the practice of organ harvesting.


Canadian Connection: MORE HERE...Epoch Times | Revised Report into Allegations of Organ Harvesting


Yea with so many of our troops in the Middle East lets upset the balance of power in favor of (in the end) our enemy. Real smart people.. Real damn smart...
And do we know if we America was involved, do we know what our labs are doing? Or for that matter any half advanced country what it might be doing?

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I agree. I'm all for weaning them off the foreign aid teat.
so long as we wean the palestinians off the government tit at the same time.
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But even that will upset the balance of power and most likely start a great Islamic uprising... Give it some thought people...
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The killing of religion has contributed no doubt. Add the fact that once you reason away abortion...anything is acceptable after awhile. Psychological mechanisms become rooted after repetition.
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That ain't Kosher I'm sure..
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