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Old 11-21-2009, 11:56 AM
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For those who still believe money trumps being partisan in all cases...

If anyone thinks that these bookstore owners aren't lying through their liberal teeth, you'd need to look no further than the fact that the publisher just had to ADD ANOTHER MILLION COPIES...

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I would have to agree that there is some BS here. A quick look at the sales rank at amazon show the book to be number one.
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Maybe its just the FAG bookstores? Oh...wait, what am I saying that would COVER the Bay Area wouldn't it now??

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Why doesn't your moderator get warned for 'baiting and derogatory language' when he is guilty of it in other threads. He's a moderator and essentially condoned the same behavior.
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My problem with this involves the left's apparent duplicity as regarding First Amendment rights.

As I understand the First Amendment, American citizens are guaranteed the right of free speech (among other things). The government has no right to interfere with this very precious right. (There are, of course, some common-sense limitations: Slander, libel, and the shouting of "Fire!" in a crowded theater--on this last point, see Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Schenck v. United States, 1919--are obvious exceptions.)

Left-of-center thinkers, however, tend to embrace the rather fuzzy concept of "Constitutional values" rather than that of Constitutional language; and among those values, in their opinion, is the right to a forum.

Yet the PC Police of the left do not wish to give a forum to those whom they consider hopelessly retrograde in their views, and in a position (if given the opportunity) to influence the masses in an unacceptable way.

It is this glaring double standard that I find particularly unsettling.
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My problem with this involves the left's apparent duplicity as regarding First Amendment rights.

As I understand the First Amendment, American citizens are guaranteed the right of free speech (among other things). The government has no right to interfere with this very precious right. (There are, of course, some common-sense limitations: Slander, libel, and the shouting of "Fire!" in a crowded theater--on this last point, see Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Schenck v. United States, 1919--are obvious exceptions.)

Left-of-center thinkers, however, tend to embrace the rather fuzzy concept of "Constitutional values" rather than that of Constitutional language; and among those values, in their opinion, is the right to a forum.

Yet the PC Police of the left do not wish to give a forum to those whom they consider hopelessly retrograde in their views, and in a position (if given the opportunity) to influence the masses in an unacceptable way.

It is this glaring double standard that I find particularly unsettling.
I don't really see a double standard here - an owner of a bookstore is free to order whatever books she/he wants - in Frisco I'm not surprised that bookstore owners don't order Palin's book, just as I wouldn't be surprised to find that Ft. Payne, Alabama bookstore owners (actually I'm being gracious - there's prolly only one bookstore in Ft. Payne) don't order Obama's book. Business owners cater to the market.
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Why doesn't your moderator get warned for 'baiting and derogatory language' when he is guilty of it in other threads. He's a moderator and essentially condoned the same behavior.
Why does a member believe that a perceived wrong by another invites that member to perform a blatant wrong?...

If I were to ask how 25 members how they would moderate, I'd come up with 25 different answers (possibly 50)...

That's why we do things that best benefit the forum in total instead of appeasing certain members because they have a certain perception...
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I am trying to figure out what fudge has to do with any of this.
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I don't really see a double standard here - an owner of a bookstore is free to order whatever books she/he wants - in Frisco I'm not surprised that bookstore owners don't order Palin's book, just as I wouldn't be surprised to find that Ft. Payne, Alabama bookstore owners (actually I'm being gracious - there's prolly only one bookstore in Ft. Payne) don't order Obama's book. Business owners cater to the market.
If it were simply a market-driven decision, reflecting the tastes of the community, I would have no problem with it. But the comment of one bookstore clerk--"We're a small store and it would probably gross us all out. ...a book like that is just gross"--may be emblamatic of mindset that demands the censorship of any material that does not reflect the Officially Accepted Values of the left.

And that disturbs me.
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If it were simply a market-driven decision, reflecting the tastes of the community, I would have no problem with it. But the comment of one bookstore clerk--"We're a small store and it would probably gross us all out. ...a book like that is just gross"--may be emblamatic of mindset that demands the censorship of any material that does not reflect the Officially Accepted Values of the left.

And that disturbs me.
A business decision isn't the same thing as censorship.
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There was not one copy of "Fried Green Tomatoes" or "Jesus, a Mediterranean Peasant" on the shelf at my home town library. And at the time one of them was featured in Time magazine and the other was being made into a hit movie. The small book store in the mall could order them but didn't have them stocked either.

Palin's book is on order at my local library at the moment.
But unless I travel to Boise, I probably won't read it sooner. Small book stores and independent libraries don't always go along with the latest national trends. If a book becomes a classic, then it might be a must have.
We have a lot of books on canning and the history of the Oregon territory, novels, encyclopedias, childrens books...
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