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NOW and feminists do not represent all liberals.
Just like racists don't represent all conservatives.

The vast majority of the left don't complain about "fat shaming".
Ergo, you're violating what I pointed out earlier but you cowardly avoided...
Foundit, if you actually took that tone of specificity everything you made a comment about "the right", you'd have some credibility in this whining of yours here. But you don't.
Furthermore, it's hilarious how much you here are trying to play down the place of feminists among liberals. I think you well know its a KEY and HUGE part of the left.
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Foundit, if you actually took that tone of specificity everything you made a comment about "the right", you'd have some credibility in this whining of yours here. But you don't.
Dude.
If I were more interested I'd dig up a variety of complaints YOU have sweepingly thrown out there about the left / liberals in the past.
You've got blazing hypocrisy on this complaint of yours.

THIS VERY THREAD involves you trying to sweepingly complain about the left / liberals, doesn't it...
So consider that my example #1.


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Furthermore, it's hilarious how much you here are trying to play down the place of feminists among liberals. I think you well know its a KEY and HUGE part of the left.
QUOTE ME in where I said that and what I actually said.

The reality is that you are trying to declare a sweeping claim of "hypocrisy" on the left, but you can't point to ANYBODY on this forum who has ever pushed the "fat shaming" complaint.
You are desperate to imply significance, but you can't.

And as I have pointed out repeatedly...
I have already addressed this but you habitually (and cowardly) cut and paste around it.
Ergo, I'm just going to repeat what you avoided in the past.
foundit66:
Here's the definition of hypocrisy: behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe or feel

There are two parts to that...
They both need to be present.
a) The person has to have a belief or feeling they claim, and
b) The person has to behave in a way that contradicts that.

Throughout this thread it's been a stupid assumption that liberals must oppose fat shaming...
Why?
Cause that's the only way to push this dumb complaint. Cause it's needed for the right-wingers to present themselves (yet again) as victims.


But again, I go back to threads criticizing "fat shaming" on this forum.
Right-wingers haven't been making them.
Have left-wingers been making them?
So HOW can you guys proclaim there is any "hypocrisy" when you can't show anybody on this forum who has actually shown any interest in preventing "fat shaming" in the past???
The reality is that nobody in this thread has pointed to anywhere where any "fat shaming" group has gone after one joke before.
And where the possibility exists, it's pretty broad. I've already pointed to the TV show Friends and SNL's skit on Clinton. But (without surprise), those were ignored.
So the reality is this...
If liberals don't even care to whine like a Republican-hiding-in-a-safe-space over Hillary Clinton and a fat joke on "cankles", then how the heck can any right-wing partisan justifiably complain when nobody blinks (except the partisan right-wingers) over that Sarah Huckabee Sanders joke?


And as a side-note, Repubs may be too quick to presume offense on this. (Not like that would be anything new...)
Was talking to a friend last night who was shocked at the right-wing nonsense, but also added he thought it was misplaced. He thought that was SNL's jab at Mike Huckabee's OLD WEIGHT situation.
Before he lost an impressive amount...



But whatever.
I get that some right-wingers need to assume themselves to be the victims of outrageous problems that nobody has ever had to face before...
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Throughout this thread it's been a stupid assumption that liberals must oppose fat shaming...
The problem you have is that you all on the left tend to make a HUGE deal over and pretend to be about opposing PREJUDICE. From emphasizing racism, feminism, gay pride, etc., opposing prejudice is a big part of your mantra.
As this article points out, fat shaming IS a type of prejudice.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...er-fat-shaming
Those of us that know the left's claim to be anti-prejudice is full of it are well aware there is no reason to assume you're REALLY against fat shaming because the whole anti-prejudice schtick of the left is a crock of **** anyway. But that's still the molehill you guys like try and stand on, pretty regularly.

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The reality is that nobody in this thread has pointed to anywhere where any "fat shaming" group has gone after one joke before.
And where the possibility exists, it's pretty broad.
Where is an example of the left fat shaming people on the left, Foundit? Where has the LEFT fat shamed feminists, gay pride proponents, etc., like the are here with someone on the right?
See, you guys get all bent out of shape if Trump says Rosie is fat, but then you can't see your own hypocrisy of not getting outraged in any way over this. THAT IS WHY its hypocrisy. You just will never admit it.

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And as a side-note, Repubs may be too quick to presume offense on this. (Not like that would be anything new...)
Was talking to a friend last night who was shocked at the right-wing nonsense, but also added he thought it was misplaced. He thought that was SNL's jab at Mike Huckabee's OLD WEIGHT situation.
Before he lost an impressive amount...
Your friend is nuts if he thinks an SNL skit where they make fun of an overweight Sarah Huckabee was really a case of them targeting her dad.
But here's the thing that you and your friend failed to grasp: No matter which of them they were trying to shame for having been fat, it's STILL FAT SHAMING. IOW, even if they were targetting her father, it doesn't let you off the hook that this was fat shaming and you just can't admit it.
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The problem you have is that you all on the left tend to make a HUGE deal over and pretend to be about opposing PREJUDICE.
And we're back to your hypocrisy where you try to attack me for doing exactly what you just did.
You GENERALIZE the entire left.

And again, it was a joke.
You and many on the right want to cry and whine that you guys are being victimized and that it was prejudice and it was the worst thing ever.

This exaggeration b.s. is ridiculous!


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From emphasizing racism, feminism, gay pride, etc., opposing prejudice is a big part of your mantra.
This wasn't prejducie.


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As this article points out, fat shaming IS a type of prejudice.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...er-fat-shaming
The SNL skit was not "fat shaming".

As I pointed out, you guys are bouncing all over the place.
NEVER have I EVER seen people on the right here champion the issue of fat shaming.
Hillary Clinton has a joke about cankles. The right doesn't bat an eye.
A variety of weight jokes on SNL. The right doesn't bat an eye.

One of their own gets a joke? OMG it's AWFUL that this would ever happen?!?!?!

And then, you guys likewise try to throw out the "hypocrisy" claim. But it's perpetuated on a strawman argument.
NEVER have I EVER seen people on the left here champion the issue of fat shaming.
Hillary Clinton has a joke about cankles. The left doesn't freak out. It's a freakin' joke.
But then when it comes to somebody on the right getting such a joke? You guys pretend that we are all fixated on preventing fat shaming.


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Those of us that know the left's claim to be anti-prejudice is full of it are well aware there is no reason to assume you're REALLY against fat shaming because the whole anti-prejudice schtick of the left is a crock of **** anyway. But that's still the molehill you guys like try and stand on, pretty regularly.
IT WAS A JOKE
To claim it was prejudice is the height of absurdity!

You're actually IMPLEMENTING POLITICAL CORRECTNESS now with the absurdity you're exhibiting...


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Where is an example of the left fat shaming people on the left, Foundit? Where has the LEFT fat shamed feminists, gay pride proponents, etc., like the are here with someone on the right?
Already given to you.
SNL's joke on Hillary's cankles.

Quite frankly, I think some on the left are seeking to politicize false claims of victimhood.
Right now, you are trying to do exactly that.


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See, you guys get all bent out of shape if Trump says Rosie is fat...
WHERE
Quote ANYWHERE on this forum where that happened.


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Your friend is nuts if he thinks an SNL skit where they make fun of an overweight Sarah Huckabee was really a case of them targeting her dad.
That's your opinion.
I see his point.

The stupid thing is that BOTH would be right-wingers, but you are too involved in your own claims of victimhood to see clearly now..


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But here's the thing that you and your friend failed to grasp: No matter which of them they were trying to shame for having been fat, it's STILL FAT SHAMING. IOW, even if they were targetting her father, it doesn't let you off the hook that this was fat shaming and you just can't admit it.
Right now, you are exuding "political correctness". Complaining about something that really isn't that big of a deal, but you're desperate to make it a big deal.

When the left does it, the right screams and yells about how bad political correctness is.
When the right does it, they chime in and perpetuate it whole hog.
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... it was a joke.You and many on the right want to cry and whine
This exaggeration b.s. is ridiculous!

...A variety of weight jokes ...

... a joke? ...

...IT WAS A JOKE To claim it was prejudice is the height of absurdity...


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When the left does it, the right screams and yells about how bad political correctness is.
When the right does it, they chime in and perpetuate it whole hog.
It has become apparent that Foundit's only real response is to habitually say "B-b-b-b-ut the RIGHT" anytime someone points out something about the left.
Pee Wee Herman strikes again.
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Godwin's law applies


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It has become apparent that Foundit's only real response is to habitually say "B-b-b-b-ut the RIGHT" anytime someone points out something about the left.
ROFLMAO!
So Joe has been whining "B-b-b-b-ut the LEFT" all over this thread.
And he wants to object to me saying "B-b-b-b-ut the RIGHT"

Yeah.
You can't top that level of absurd hypocrisy!
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Godwin's law??? Um, where the heck is the Hitler reference in the pic?
lol
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Godwin's law??? Um, where the heck is the Hitler reference in the pic?
lol
Do you even comprehend why Godwin's law is a fallacy in the first place?

It's because somebody has devolved the situation to a mind-numbingly meaningless comparison which bears no intelligible validity.

It was a joke about fat.
No lynchings occurred.
No black people were terrorized.

The KKK robe is stained with countless murders and terrorist acts. It symbolizes centuries of efforts to subjugate black people.

Saying Sarah Huckabee Sanders mother was a "cheeseburger" has no intelligible comparison.
To even try to attach the label of "fat shaming" to it, especially by people who have shown no prior concern over ACTUAL fat shaming, is laughable beyond words.
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