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I'm sure that those in America that are not "white Protestant men" would also like to be treated as "humans" as well in our society but they're not. There are the oppressors and the oppressed

The White Nationalists/White Supremacists/White Racists that want to change their "image" by being called the Alt-Right are the most blatant of the oppressors but they're not only oppressors nor are the even the majority of the oppressors. Everyone with prejudice against minorities and/or women contributes to the oppression.

Let me provide some reference material that will exemplify the problem because many in the United States believe that the Muslim religion is primarily responsible for the Islamic violence around the world and the domestic terrorist attacks in the United States. The most vocal of which are those that believe that the Muslim refugees from Syria represent a threat to America. I'll only quote one line from the following research paper and hopefully it will create enough interest to read the entire paper.

https://behavioralpolicy.org/article...im-immigrants/

Let's look at another fact. In multiple studies on anti-black racial prejudice it was revealed that the majority of Republicans express explicit anti-black racial prejudice. In 2008 it was roughly seven out of ten and by 2012 it increased to about eight out of ten. If someone "self-identifies" as a Republican then they need to be doing some soul-searching to find out if they're one of the seven or eight out of ten Republicans with anti-black racial prejudice because the odds say they are. The should also be looking at the "Republican ideology" to determine why it attracts people with anti-black racial prejudice. They're not "innocent" if they just live in denial of the facts.
If I were a "white Protestant man", then those that have a bigotry towards them would have had just cause, but I'm not of that group. Many minorities, regardless of the individual and their personal beliefs can comportment, treat anyone with skin different than theirs with racism and bigotry, and that is what I experienced.

I do not marginalize that some people of different nationalities have experience the prejudice from some "white Protestant men", but just as people of different nationalities have experienced it, some are also guilty of the very same paint brushing of the "white Protestant men".

I am not Republican either, so I cannot speak for them, but those who lean towards fiscal conservatism, myself included, are thrown into that group because we are not devout Liberals, regardless of their social leanings to the liberal side.

I have dealt with extreme liberals most of my life, and just as with extreme Republicans, they do not see shades of gray. 'Your either for me or against me' and have no concept of 'live and let live' or the ability to see multiple POV.

Several on this forum have proven that.
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White privilege is when you wake up in the morning and don't have to think about how you will dress or act or if you walk to work in accordance with a police thinking you are a thug. White people don't ever think about it because they don't have to so many of us are unaware it exists.
Again, only members of the white race enjoy so-called white privilege. Racism that proclaims that due to their race a certain group enjoys special privileges is still racism. Buying into white privilege requires belief in a massive conspiracy that dwarfs anything proposed by the so called alt Right.
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Again, only members of the white race enjoy so-called white privilege. Racism that proclaims that due to their race a certain group enjoys special privileges is still racism. Buying into white privilege requires belief in a massive conspiracy that dwarfs anything proposed by the so called alt Right.
no. you don't understand that is not what it means. it means never having to consider doing or not doing something a certain way just because you are black or look "ethnic"; and sounds like you don't ever have to prepare yourself mentally or present a visual act to ward off harm to yourself. Me telling you that is not prejudiced; it's merely pointing it out cause maybe you could use that information going forward.
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Again, only members of the white race enjoy so-called white privilege. Racism that proclaims that due to their race a certain group enjoys special privileges is still racism. Buying into white privilege requires belief in a massive conspiracy that dwarfs anything proposed by the so called alt Right.
So Only people that are tall enjoy Tall privilege. Of reaching the top shelves etc.. And to point this out makes the pointer A TALL-IST whose UNFAIRLY accusing Tall people of making others short etc...

And Only people that are slim enjoys slim privilege when shopping and trying too get seats at airports.
Only people that that can walk enjoy leg privileges at stairs.
Only people that are young can enjoy full playground Privelege.

and to say so IS WRONG...
right?

I think some people do try to use the phrase to WHIP white people with But IMO it's really just a definition of the social context of the west.
it's not that EVERYONE in the west who are White are somehow racist it's that BY DEFAULT of 1000 years of western culture things are culturally/socially/politically/economically skewed to favor white guys. Of course it's become FAR less pronounced but it's still in the air we breath.

Like a leopard being born with spots life compared to a litter of albino leopards. It's not WRONG to have spots but to pretend that it's not an advantage in the jungle is not being honest.

And the man-made social-etc jungle it's just a bit better.
If seen in that sense it's not really and attack or racist. it's just the way it is.
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So Only people that are tall enjoy Tall privilege. Of reaching the top shelves etc.. And to point this out makes the pointer A TALL-IST whose UNFAIRLY accusing Tall people of making others short etc...

And Only people that are slim enjoys slim privilege when shopping and trying too get seats at airports.
Only people that that can walk enjoy leg privileges at stairs.
Only people that are young can enjoy full playground Privelege.

and to say so IS WRONG...
right?

I think some people do try to use the phrase to WHIP white people with But IMO it's really just a definition of the social context of the west.
it's not that EVERYONE in the west who are White are somehow racist it's that BY DEFAULT of 1000 years of western culture things are culturally/socially/politically/economically skewed to favor white guys. Of course it's become FAR less pronounced but it's still in the air we breath.

Like a leopard being born with spots life compared to a litter of albino leopards. It's not WRONG to have spots but to pretend that it's not an advantage in the jungle is not being honest.

And the man-made social-etc jungle it's just a bit better.
If seen in that sense it's not really and attack or racist. it's just the way it is.
While there are a couple of things in there I may not agree with, the general premise is strong and well written.

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