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Old 08-31-2008, 05:19 AM
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The president does not GET a line item veto. GW has been begging for it since before he took office.
Ask ANY democrat to NAME an actual program that they would be willing to cut. They only pretend in election years.
His line about giving US the same insurance that congress gets.......may I ask you "who" pays for it? Duh, WE do. They don't.
Insurance costs so much because we are forced to pay for coverage that we don't need that is mandated by gov. and for ALL of the litigation. Healthcare costs so much because those that pay have to pay for those that don't.
Gas costs so much because the oil companies first pay the gov to lease the land they then pay a royalty on every drop to the gov, they have to constantly fight in court against enviros, they then pay taxes and if you check you will discover that while Exxon makes an 8% profit (on which they pay a 50% tax rate also) the government is raking in about 65% of their gross and not doing ANY of the work.
Jut want to comment that one reason I might vote for McCain/Palin is because she has already been taking on big oil to keep the benefit of Alaska's resources in her state and country. If it wasn't true that Alaskan oil is not benefiting Americans as it should, she wouldn't be having this discussion.
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And he won't get it...

The SC ruled it "unconstitutional"...

the only option I see is this...

A president gets a bill from Congress...Instead of passing it, he vetoes it, but runs red lines through every part that's crap (pork barrel stuff, etc)...Then he PUBLICLY shows it to the press and says "If they respond to this by sending me a bill that does NOT contain the lines I went over with my red pen, then I'll sign it."...

I don't know if that's ever been done...I'm scared that if it's tried, the Congress would say "no" and have a super-majority vote which overrides the president's veto...

Shows you how much I trust Congress...
Seems to me what is unconstitutional is how they group so many different things into a bill and play so much politics around it.
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Jut want to comment that one reason I might vote for McCain/Palin is because she has already been taking on big oil to keep the benefit of Alaska's resources in her state and country. If it wasn't true that Alaskan oil is not benefiting Americans as it should, she wouldn't be having this discussion.
What you don't hear is "why" we ship Alaskan oil to Asia.
Simple economics and geography.....oil is oil.......Asia buys oil from Mexico.....we take the close by oil from Mexico and ship them oil from Alaska to replace it...win win less transportation necessary.
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What you don't hear is "why" we ship Alaskan oil to Asia.
Simple economics and geography.....oil is oil.......Asia buys oil from Mexico.....we take the close by oil from Mexico and ship them oil from Alaska to replace it...win win less transportation necessary.
Then you would disagree with her on that then?
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