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Old 07-28-2008, 10:12 AM
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Do yourself a favor. I don't generally watch CNN but I have a little lately. I am serious. Watch Lou Dobbs They have a real desain for Obama. I don't know if they are in the tank for McCain. I watched the woman Kitty something sitting in for lou Dobbs. She couldn't stop smirking while she talked abot Obama. And trashed him. I know that its PC to assume CNN is in the tank for Obama. But you should take a look before you just take the common view.
Great, there's one guy on CNN that likes McCain. One guy, and the girl who filled in for him once. That's about it.

You think ABC and CBS are undecided? Yeah, sure ... people like Katie Couric and George Stephanopolis have never shown their true political feelings.

There's really no question where the mainstream media stands and I'm feel sorry for those who can't at least admit it. If someone on the left would actually own up to the reality of this once in a while it would be refreshing. Instead, those on the left are so embarrassed by it they deny, deny, deny ... which just makes them seem like lunatics to the rest of us...
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:20 AM
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Great, there's one guy on CNN that likes McCain. One guy, and the girl who filled in for him once. That's about it.

You think ABC and CBS are undecided? Yeah, sure ... people like Katie Couric and George Stephanopolis have never shown their true political feelings.

There's really no question where the mainstream media stands and I'm feel sorry for those who can't at least admit it. If someone on the left would actually own up to the reality of this once in a while it would be refreshing. Instead, those on the left are so embarrassed by it they deny, deny, deny ... which just makes them seem like lunatics to the rest of us...
Hey quick draw. Who you shooting at? I was thinking the same when I was supporting Hillary. The media loves Obama. The left media threw Hillary under the bus for Obama.
Do you think Wolf Blitzer is for Obama? I think Wolf is for Wolf. He hasn't shown a preference for a candidate. He just wants the "Exclusive". But I guess if you aren't in the tank for McCain you must be a lefty. What exactly has CNN done that makes you say that they are leftist?
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:48 AM
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Grow up.
When you read or hear about a subject you are unfamiliar with don't you sometimes get al Jazeera's take on the issue before you post anything on the matter? It helps to get a sense of context sometimes.
Try to keep the issue in context.
It's not an issue of "getting a sense of context".

It's the fact that the "fair and balanced" news source gets their talking points fed to them straight from the White House.

The main reason I posted that here is because "some" people persist in the delusion that Fox is "fair and balanced".
It's not.


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And this you might not be too familiar with, but because the White House represents the United States and good citizens want to do what's best for their country they will take a cue from their country's leadership before speaking out on a subject to avoid being at odds or speculating incorrectly on a matter.
And I'm sure you'll continue to hold that perspective when there's a Democrat in the Oval Office.
And I'm sure Fox will continue with this fine tradition (as you describe) when there is a Democrat in the Oval Office.

NOT!!!


You're trying to put lip-stick on the pig.
It's still a pig.


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But that doesn't mean they don't do their own analysis.
Really?
Do they?
How can you tell?


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I absolutely know you check MSNBC or other sources to get your talking points. And those dweebs, trolls and traitors get their talking points from Soros and Huffpo and Moveon.
And there's the other shoe dropping.
When it's the Republican White House, it's about "what's best for the country".
Lying about what invading Iraq will be like? Good for the country.
Firing DAs who don't fully back the Republican agenda? Good for the country.

But the Democrat side of the coin? "dweebs, trolls and traitors"...


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I don't disagree with this at all...
But I'd like to see the other side of the coin where Democrats have used everybody BUT FoxNews to get their message out...
I find it pretty disingenuous for the Left to have a monopoly -1 and complain about it...
Democrat's complaint = "We have NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNBC, and CNN on our side...They have Fox...
If you think Democrats have the "monopoly" you describe, you're deluding yourselves.
Do you really want to talk about who CNN supports? Or the reality of a couple of those other examples?

And as for "They have Fox", I have NEVER seen a news crew entrenched in the White House like Fox is with the Bush regime. It's like trying to compare an apple orchard to a bushel of oranges.

And I take it that you're refusal to disagree means that the ridiculous assertion that Fox is anywhere near fair or balanced is now put to bed?
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Try to keep the issue in context.
It's not an issue of "getting a sense of context".

It's the fact that the "fair and balanced" news source gets their talking points fed to them straight from the White House.

The main reason I posted that here is because "some" people persist in the delusion that Fox is "fair and balanced".
It's not.
If you love America and genuinely see the world as the White House does, why does the idea of getting talking points from them seem so strange to you???

What you should be asking is why you are at odds with the government trying to keep your ass safe and maintaining your rights?

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And I'm sure you'll continue to hold that perspective when there's a Democrat in the Oval Office.
And I'm sure Fox will continue with this fine tradition (as you describe) when there is a Democrat in the Oval Office.
I have always supported MY PRESIDENT. Even Clinton and Carter.

If the Presidential administration changes such that their talking points no longer represent our traditional values I would not expect Fox to use White House talking points.

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NOT!!!


You're trying to put lip-stick on the pig.
It's still a pig.
No, it's not. But if we are talking about romancing pigs, I'd say you are fellating the porker.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:46 AM
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If you love America and genuinely see the world as the White House does, why does the idea of getting talking points from them seem so strange to you???

And the other half of your mouth complains about how the "MSM" is biased towards liberal media...
And what I'm REALLY seeing here (if we were to accept that premise to be true) is that you're just jealous that you can't get more of the "MSM" to cater to your political perspective...

But as to why I see it as "strange" (as you put it), maybe you should review some of the classic literature which ponders the impact of having your "media" being fed to you by the government, instead of having it be a means of MONITORING the government...
1984 should do for starters...


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What you should be asking is why you are at odds with the government trying to keep your ass safe and maintaining your rights?

If only the truth lay along those lines...
Instead, we have a government which tramples the rights of the American people behind their back, giving a freedom from prosecution for the people who helped them in their endeavors.
We have a government which involved itself in Iraq under false pretenses, and the GOVERNMENT'S OWN RESEARCH admits that we have INCREASED the terrorist threat.

Bhkad, what you should REALLY be asking is where is the wisdom in having such power in the hands of people with POLITICAL aspirations that are put above and beyond the best interests of the people.

If the government is REALLY doing what's best for the people, LET THE MEDIA COME TO THAT CONCLUSION BY ITSELF.
The fact that Fox News needs to be spoon-fed talking points demonstrates they need help convincing others of what you say...


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I have always supported MY PRESIDENT. Even Clinton and Carter.
So you opposed Clinton's impeachment then?


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If the Presidential administration changes such that their talking points no longer represent our traditional values I would not expect Fox to use White House talking points.
Who is this "our"?
Do you mean you and your fellow Republicans?

Do I really need to give you a history lesson on what Fox News did / said regarding Clinton?
And just out of curiousity, did you happen to remember if you spoke out against Fox News when they attacked him?
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:35 AM
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Do yourself a favor. I don't generally watch CNN but I have a little lately. I am serious. Watch Lou Dobbs They have a real desain for Obama. I don't know if they are in the tank for McCain. I watched the woman Kitty something sitting in for lou Dobbs. She couldn't stop smirking while she talked abot Obama. And trashed him. I know that its PC to assume CNN is in the tank for Obama. But you should take a look before you just take the common view.
I agree,Dobbs is not an Obama fan and I have noticed the same tone on Lou's show that you expressed. I believe Lou is in the tank for McCain.
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