Nyt Rejects Mccain's Editorial; Should 'mirror' Obama

cnredd · #1 (**permalink**) 07-21-2008, 04:29 PM

NYT REJECTS MCCAIN'S EDITORIAL; SHOULD 'MIRROR' OBAMA

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An editorial written by Republican presidential hopeful McCain has been rejected by the NEW YORK TIMES -- less than a week after the paper published an essay written by Obama, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The paper's decision to refuse McCain's direct rebuttal to Obama's 'My Plan for Iraq' has ignited explosive charges of media bias in top Republican circles.

'It would be terrific to have an article from Senator McCain that mirrors Senator Obama's piece,' NYT Op-Ed editor David Shipley explained in an email late Friday to McCain's staff. 'I'm not going to be able to accept this piece as currently written.'

Can it get any more blatant?!?!?...

saltwn · #2 (**permalink**) 07-21-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

NYT REJECTS MCCAIN'S EDITORIAL; SHOULD 'MIRROR' OBAMA

Can it get any more blatant?!?!?...

Think maybe McCain interjected a few our letter words?

No. This is yellow journalism plain and simple. I don't know why the Times wouldn't print both. Just crazy.

Mikeyy · #3 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 12:44 AM

I think McCain has got a right to want to debate Obama. And I am sure he wants to use the paper to debate Obama. And I think the paper thinks they are being used. They will have their debates.
Was Obama's essay a critique of McCain?

saltwn · #4 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

I think McCain has got a right to want to debate Obama. And I am sure he wants to use the paper to debate Obama. And I think the paper thinks they are being used. They will have their debates.
Was Obama's essay a critique of McCain?

No. But here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/op...in&oref=slogin

saltwn · #5 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 01:18 AM

I guess the NYT wanted a "My Plan for Iraq" by McCain.
An editorial is not a school room English course. "And here's your subject, boys and girls. Todays paper should be a plan for Iraq."

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In McCain's submission to the TIMES, he writes of Obama: 'I am dismayed that he never talks about winning the war—only of ending it... if we don't win the war, our enemies will. A triumph for the terrorists would be a disaster for us. That is something I will not allow to happen as president.'

NYT's Shipley advised McCain to try again: 'I'd be pleased, though, to look at another draft.'

[Shipley served in the Clinton Administration from 1995 until 1997 as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Presidential Speechwriter.]

MORE

A top McCain source claims the paper simply does not agree with the senator's Iraq policy, and wants him to change it, not "re-work the draft."

McCain writes in the rejected essay: 'Progress has been due primarily to an increase in the number of troops and a change in their strategy. I was an early advocate of the surge at a time when it had few supporters in Washington. Senator Barack Obama was an equally vocal opponent. 'I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there,' he said on January 10, 2007. 'In fact, I think it will do the reverse.'

MORE DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2008®

So, I think in this case the NYT is biased. But I guess to get an unbiased newspaper I'd have to start my own and who has the time?

Mikeyy · #6 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 01:49 AM

I was just wondering if it was McCains intention to tear in to Obama's essay. Or make his own case? If it was the latter. I have no problem.

cnredd · #7 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

I was just wondering if it was McCains intention to tear in to Obama's essay. Or make his own case? If it was the latter. I have no problem.

Who cares what his plan was...It's an EDITORIAL...

Since when does a newspaper say "We'll take an editorial from a presidentail candidate, but only if it's in the fashion that WE want?"...

Mikeyy · #8 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Who cares what his plan was...It's an EDITORIAL...

Since when does a newspaper say "We'll take an editorial from a presidentail candidate, but only if it's in the fashion that WE want?"...

I care what his plan was. I am tired of listening to candidates taking pot shots at their opponent. If he want's to do an essay about his thoughts on policy taht is great. But if he is going to start the lapel pin crap. I am tired of McCain misrepresenting his opponent. I don't like it from any side. So Obama does an essay. Let McCain do an essay. Besides there is no requirement to post an editorial. I don't look to Obama to explain McCains views. And I don't want to hear McCain do it to Obama. It doesn't move the ball forward. Do you really want to hear him repeat "Obama should go to Iraq before he has an opinion." I've already heard it. Now what?

bhkad · #9 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

I care what his plan was. I am tired of listening to candidates taking pot shots at their opponent. If he want's to do an essay about his thoughts on policy taht is great. But if he is going to start the lapel pin crap. I am tired of McCain misrepresenting his opponent. I don't like it from any side. So Obama does an essay. Let McCain do an essay. Besides there is no requirement to post an editorial. I don't look to Obama to explain McCains views. And I don't want to hear McCain do it to Obama. It doesn't move the ball forward. Do you really want to hear him repeat "Obama should go to Iraq before he has an opinion." I've already heard it. Now what?

What I want to hear is McCain bring up Obama's Global Poverty bill.

Game. Set. Match.

Mr. McCain.

Michael1 · #10 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

I am tired of McCain misrepresenting his opponent. I don't like it from any side. So Obama does an essay. Let McCain do an essay.

What give you or the NYTimes the right (or in their case, the responsibility) to make demands on content and style? Also, how can McCain misrepresent his opponent any more than his opponent has already misrepresented himself. Obama's been all over the map regarding Iraq, and he'll likely stand in about two or three new places between now and the election. Pointing out how often someone has changed their mind for political expediency isn't misrepresenting them, it's demonstrating how impossible it is to really get any consistency out of them.

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I don't look to Obama to explain McCains views. And I don't want to hear McCain do it to Obama. It doesn't move the ball forward.

Sure it does, because all politicians tell only their version of the truth.

This isn't going to be a very pretty election if media outlets such as the NYTimes continue to blatantly swoon over Obama.

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