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Who do you think you're fooling?
No. They don't give "equal footing and equal time".
I don't engage in foolery. And yes just watch the show, they always strive to give both sides on the issue and have a balance panel to discuss both sides of the issue.

Who's Fair and Balanced?: Fox News Channel's coverage was more balanced toward both parties than the broadcast networks were. On FOX, evaluations of all Democratic candidates combined were split almost evenly - 51% positive vs. 49% negative, as were all evaluations of GOP candidates - 49% positive vs. 51% negative, producing a perfectly balanced 50-50 split for all candidates of both parties.

On the three broadcast networks, opinion on Democratic candidates split 47% positive vs. 53% negative, while evaluations of Republicans were more negative - 40% positive vs. 60% negative. For both parties combined, network evaluations were almost 3 to 2 negative in tone, i.e. 41% positive vs. 59% negative.

Who, you're probably asking, are the CMPA? Glad you asked:

The Center for Media and Public Affairs (CMPA) is a nonpartisan research and educational organization which conducts scientific studies of the news and entertainment media. CMPA election studies have played a major role in the ongoing debate over improving the election process. Our continuing analysis and tabulation of late night political jokes provides a lighter look at major news makers. CMPA is one of the few groups to study the important role the media plays in communicating information about health risks and scientific issues.

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bottom line: if you get all your news from one source you're likely to be underinformed. It is not possible for every TV news show to present an entire story, They're usually much too compoicated for the 3 & a half minutes they spend on one story. Watching different networks & programs gives one many sides (because despite what some believe even so called hard news is littered with opinion --- simply by what they omitt from a story). It is once you've taken in all the information can you actually make an educated assessment of what the whole truth & reality of a story is.
That's just for TV --- then there's radio, print & internet.

I don't watch network news...
I do however watch all the cable news channels - Fox, CNN, MSNBC
Radio - the midnight trucking radio metwork - peter werbe - npr - plus whoeveer is on when I'm in the car...
print - hometown newspaper - whatever is lying around at an office/etc...
internet - real clear politics - yahoo news home page - & forums like this

I can't possible watch, listen or read them all everyday.
I do the best I can to pull information from as many different sources as possible. I would hope that anyone wishing to be informed would do the same instead of just assuming one source is bad & this one is good based on an opinion.

As for why I don't watch network news --- it's only on during a specific time & my schedule just doesn't line up for it. And, the news is so short & they try to cover so much that more full coverage can be found on 24 hour news channels.
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I don't engage in foolery. And yes just watch the show, they always strive to give both sides on the issue and have a balance panel to discuss both sides of the issue.
I've seen their "both sides" (CUT HIS MIC!!!)
Like Hannity and Colmes, where the "liberal" doesn't even try to refute a lot of the b.s. that comes out of the right-wing side...

No. They aren't "balanced".


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This has already been put up, and rejected.
CMPA was started by a FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.
You might as well be asking Fox News what they think about themselves...

And I'll take your failure to address my evidence, which I can keep putting up from different resources, as a sign that you can't really prove your point.
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I've seen their "both sides" (CUT HIS MIC!!!)
Like Hannity and Colmes, where the "liberal" doesn't even try to refute a lot of the b.s. that comes out of the right-wing side...

No. They aren't "balanced".



This has already been put up, and rejected.
CMPA was started by a FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.
You might as well be asking Fox News what they think about themselves...

And I'll take your failure to address my evidence, which I can keep putting up from different resources, as a sign that you can't really prove your point.
You can't trust "FOX" to guard the hen house (pun intended)
They are totally laughable as a "news source"....it's SNL meets The Twilight Zone.
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I've seen their "both sides" (CUT HIS MIC!!!)
Like Hannity and Colmes, where the "liberal" doesn't even try to refute a lot of the b.s. that comes out of the right-wing side...

No. They aren't "balanced".



This has already been put up, and rejected.
CMPA was started by a FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.
You might as well be asking Fox News what they think about themselves...

And I'll take your failure to address my evidence, which I can keep putting up from different resources, as a sign that you can't really prove your point.

Just the reason he is on the ignore list for me. And foundit66, thanks for the links... FOX NEWS is...

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Please. Only "rubes" and smarmy conservatives endorse Fox News. What with Bill-O and his loofahs, and Hannity digging up the Wright sermons, it's more "smear as entertainment' and White House "talking points" than any "real" news.

Coffee went out my nose and I wasn't even drinking any.
Your ignorance is showing. Bill-O is not a "newscaster" he is a commentator(His show is also only five hours out of 168(oops sorry they repeat his show so I guess if you want to count repeats he gets 15) . Hannity is only ONE HALF of his show. Your examples only point out that you can't even find the conservative commentator on your choice of networks. (go ahead try to convince me that Tucker Carlson is a good conservative pundit.)
By the way Hannity "dug up" those "wright sermons" well over a year ago and also interviewed wright himself way back then(note this was before Obama was even an official candidate) and by the way he didn't have to "dig" up the sermons as Rev Wright SELLS them on his website.
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Not to mention, the whole argument is a strawman.

Fox News does a WHOLE lot more than just "lean to the left".

A while back there were polls about which the followers of specific news resources were evaluated on their knowledge of certain subjects.
Fox News was at the back of the class.

Add on this "terrorist fist jab" and "baby mama" stupidity, and it's just an absurdly obvious demonstration of engaging in an absolutely repulsive "anti-journalistic" mentality.

You got a rumor that makes Democrats look bad? Put it up there.
You got a response to the issue, but no credible evidence to base the response on? Phrase it as a question to give it a pretend legitimacy.

It's not an issue of "conservative" or "hate", but rather they just plain need to clean up their act.
Funny the polls I see say exactly the opposite and the listeners of talk radio are far better informed than any other media followers.
You liberals just can't stand it if the truth gets out. Argue the facts not the source. Unless you can prove the facts wrong the source don't matter.
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I've seen their "both sides" (CUT HIS MIC!!!)
Like Hannity and Colmes, where the "liberal" doesn't even try to refute a lot of the b.s. that comes out of the right-wing side...

No. They aren't "balanced".



This has already been put up, and rejected.
CMPA was started by a FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.
You might as well be asking Fox News what they think about themselves...

And I'll take your failure to address my evidence, which I can keep putting up from different resources, as a sign that you can't really prove your point.
Hannity's opponent does the best that he can. His problem is that he does have some standards and won't bald faced lie like most liberals.
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Hannity's opponent does the best that he can. His problem is that he does have some standards and won't bald faced lie like most liberals.
From what little I've seen of the show, Hannity's opponent appears to be too stereotypical to be believable. Just my short impression.
There aren't any good news entertainers with Democrat views. There used to be more of a balance of opinion from both sides. But what I see on T.V. now makes me ill. I used to like talk radio. And some of my local Boise stations are still very good. But of the syndicated stuff, I only like "Car Talk", and a couple of financial and garden tips shows. Of course I love Coast to Coast especially on Halloween.
I listen to Rush occasionally, but his flare is kind of waining. I simply cannot stand most of the women radio show hosts including "Dr." Laura. And what's her name the one who now touts Senator McCarthy as a great guy. Her accent bugs me.
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Hannity's opponent does the best that he can. His problem is that he does have some standards and won't bald faced lie like most liberals.
Liberals don't lie, as a rule....they don't have to. Conservatives, on the other hand, have a distorted view of reality...and can't tell a lie from the truth.
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