Gee, if Israel would agree to those same two things, we could call it a peace agreement.

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Consumption is indeed important in a free economy: particularly the freedom of consumers to buy their goods in unhampered markets. However, key to long-term economic growth is investment (savings), which is the opposite of consumption. Public policies that promote consumption — such as low interest rates — do so at the expense of savings. Less savings means less investments; an economy that does not save or invest will consume all of its resources and eventually end up bankrupt.-David Saied

Both of those are rational explanations.
It's jumping straight to "HE'S LYING" which screams of paranoia...


My comment is just as legitimate as yours.
Employing the same simplistic logic, people can easily declare the Bush administration as lying.
But you defend Bush tooth and nail, so you can't see that.


You're making a mountain out of a molehill, cause it's Obama.
And if it were a Republican candidate, you'd find a million and one excuses to sweep it under the rug.

There is no "lying" going on here.
Obama has always been consistent in his word.
Do you really think Obama spends a lot of his time going over his "web-site" to ensure there are no mistakes?

Mountain out of a molehill.

We'll only agree to talk if you give us everything we were going to talk about FIRST...
Yeah. I like that strategy too...

What should be put on the table is forcing the other Arab nations in the ME and North Africa to start accepting Palestinian immigration applications and stop hiding behind the gangster syndicates like the PA and Hamas. If you want to see what 'voting with your feet' really looks like, you'll see the Palestinian Problem go away almost overnight; there aren't really that many Palestinians anxious to live under Hamas or the PLO, a second state or no, and most of them immigrated there from Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, and other Arab provinces anyway, and have no real historical ties to the region.

Besides, the British tried the two state solution and it failed miserably. Jews and Israelis have as much right to settle in the West Bank and Gaza as anybody else. Neither the British nor the UN ever proclaimed those areas to be some sort of 'Jew Free Zones'; that happened as a result of the illegal Jordanian invasion and occupation, as was the expansion of Arab neighborhoods in Jerusalem. The Arabs got their 'Jew Free Zones' when Jordan was created. They have no exclusive claims to the West Bank or Gaza, and both Egypt and Jordan have dropped their claims to both areas.

Your solution sounds promising. Although I do think Palestinians have ties to the area, a lot of them are dispersed throughout the middle east. (Theories are they were originally descended from Phoenicians and where their country was- if it was- is any body's guess) But they have been in the area now occupied by the Israelis along with Arabs and Jews also.
But yes, why don't the other middle eastern countries step up and embrace them? Could it be they are merely using the Palestinians as an excuse for unrest, cause they (Arabia, Syria, Jordan ) like it that way?

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Consumption is indeed important in a free economy: particularly the freedom of consumers to buy their goods in unhampered markets. However, key to long-term economic growth is investment (savings), which is the opposite of consumption. Public policies that promote consumption — such as low interest rates — do so at the expense of savings. Less savings means less investments; an economy that does not save or invest will consume all of its resources and eventually end up bankrupt.-David Saied