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This guy had all the qualification as a mental health worker as Cap'n Kangaroo.
Typical, yet true. Yet many Veterans try to help other Vets. As on line or in groups, organizations.

At least they did with us Nam Vets, once it was realized there were problems.. The VA allowed for small groups run by other Vets, most who never were in combat.

And not all of these guys on line have any training. Chris Kyle & the other guy were taking a very big chance and they paid the price.

Yet lets not trash either of them for trying when the Gov., is doing less once it realized around 15 years after the fact, that there is a price soldiers face from Combat.

And then they opened these (in just 5 locations) Viet-Nam Units. What they learned is get to the problem quickly.

And that doesn't always work out, when one has 3 to 6 combat tours. And a decent amount of them are taking meds., while in country.

Now lets look at this from a different view. If this shooter wasn't with them, he might have done even more damage to other citizens. Then to he might have never shoot anyone.

I have been saying just wait till some of these guys when backed into their small corner, will feel they need to go on the offense. And strike back at what they see as a nation that he defended, is now an enemy.

If you have ever dealt with the VA, you would understand what I mean "backed into the corner.

I have heard other Vets say look at the amount they spend on each VA Hospital & staff.
While these same Hospitals are behind in staff that are trained to deal with returning Troops that are now Veterans. And behind other hospitals in equipment.
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Typical, yet true. Yet many Veterans try to help other Vets. As on line or in groups, organizations.

At least they did with us Nam Vets, once it was realized there were problems.. The VA allowed for small groups run by other Vets, most who never were in combat.

And not all of these guys on line have any training. Chris Kyle & the other guy were taking a very big chance and they paid the price.

Yet lets not trash either of them for trying when the Gov., is doing less once it realized around 15 years after the fact, that there is a price soldiers face from Combat.

And then they opened these (in just 5 locations) Viet-Nam Units. What they learned is get to the problem quickly.

And that doesn't always work out, when one has 3 to 6 combat tours. And a decent amount of them are taking meds., while in country.

Now lets look at this from a different view. If this shooter wasn't with them, he might have done even more damage to other citizens. Then to he might have never shoot anyone.

I have been saying just wait till some of these guys when backed into their small corner, will feel they need to go on the offense. And strike back at what they see as a nation that he defended, is now an enemy.

If you have ever dealt with the VA, you would understand what I mean "backed into the corner.

I have heard other Vets say look at the amount they spend on each VA Hospital & staff.
While these same Hospitals are behind in staff that are trained to deal with returning Troops that are now Veterans. And behind other hospitals in equipment.
The VA has gotten better than the bad old days. But I would rather have seen these guys raising money to help vets get real help.
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The VA has gotten better than the bad old days. But I would rather have seen these guys raising money to help vets get real help.
Now that is the crux of my problem with both the Wounded Warrior program and vets like Chris Kyle trying to help. We as tax payers pay these people to protect us and with that comes costs, real costs in some cases. It should be handled by the people that sent them into harms way not a charitable organization or individuals, but as part of the Defense budget. Perhaps if they gave up a single air craft carrier or a plane or two the could finally take care of their responsibilities, that being Congress.
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Now that is the crux of my problem with both the Wounded Warrior program and vets like Chris Kyle trying to help. We as tax payers pay these people to protect us and with that comes costs, real costs in some cases. It should be handled by the people that sent them into harms way not a charitable organization or individuals, but as part of the Defense budget. Perhaps if they gave up a single air craft carrier or a plane or two the could finally take care of their responsibilities, that being Congress.
I agree. Too badChris wasn't helping out at a VA hospital under some direction from pros.
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The VA has gotten better than the bad old days. But I would rather have seen these guys raising money to help vets get real help.
For some unkown reason I have been getting {despite my writing to them to stop} these cheap yet nice little kits from this group for Hospitalized Vets, for many years now. They are HQ in CA.

And I bet they get them cheaper than dirt and collect funds why above what these kits cost them and someone or several of them are making millions from sending out forms mostly to older people who have idea of how they are being taken.

And I have wrote to them seval times to stop sending these kits to me. I have a decent box filled of these kits. Which I am taking to the VA Hospital and donate them, once my name and address is removed...

Not every group who is collecting funds is a real charity. No matter what they are for. Plenty of get rich schemes are among the real ones.
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Now that is the crux of my problem with both the Wounded Warrior program and vets like Chris Kyle trying to help. We as tax payers pay these people to protect us and with that comes costs, real costs in some cases. It should be handled by the people that sent them into harms way not a charitable organization or individuals, but as part of the Defense budget. Perhaps if they gave up a single air craft carrier or a plane or two the could finally take care of their responsibilities, that being Congress.


I would have to agree completly with this.... Cause no matter what the group is some of the donated money goes to administration that run these groups. And that can be a lot..

When it is the govt., who sent them and are responsible to fix each after they come home messed up.

Not some charity just set up for that cause.
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Now that is the crux of my problem with both the Wounded Warrior program and vets like Chris Kyle trying to help. We as tax payers pay these people to protect us and with that comes costs, real costs in some cases. It should be handled by the people that sent them into harms way not a charitable organization or individuals, but as part of the Defense budget. Perhaps if they gave up a single air craft carrier or a plane or two the could finally take care of their responsibilities, that being Congress.
my husband gets more information from the VFW than the government agencies.
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I heard he was killed this morning while at the VA. If I recall correctly (as announcements are being made that are louder than the TV volume is set to) he and two other friends were at a shooting range.

And this one guy just turned and shot the other two.


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572 comments. Some show that the public just doesn't understand P.T.S.D.

I do hope that this movie is made in his memory.
by the by, they are making a movie and the guy who played the lead in Silver Linings Playbook is going to portray Chris.
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by the by, they are making a movie and the guy who played the lead in Silver Linings Playbook is going to portray Chris.
I'll bet they leave out the part where he claimed to have knocked Jesse Ventura on his ass.
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