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I can actually see the WWP not accepting donations from religious groups. They are a secular assistance organization. To accept donations from religious groups could lead to charges of religious preferences or discriminatory behavior if, for some reason, they felt compelled to refuse assistance from a group of a particular faith. I doubt, for instance, that WWP would want to accept donations from Islamic organizations, so they refuse to accept them from any religious group. Individuals within that group, of course, are still welcome to donate.

Sorry lobo I didn't read this before I responded to Mike oh well same point I made by the way.
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This is very tragic. I've never read the book. Just the title would have put me off, but sounds like it might be interesting after all. I don't know if I'll read it. Can't take very exciting stuff sometimes these days.
Any death is sad and the fact he was trying to help these guys tragic. I hope more is done to help post trauma stress from war or wherever it may have been developed.
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This is very tragic. I've never read the book. Just the title would have put me off, but sounds like it might be interesting after all. I don't know if I'll read it. Can't take very exciting stuff sometimes these days.
Any death is sad and the fact he was trying to help these guys tragic. I hope more is done to help post trauma stress from war or wherever it may have been developed.
It should also make people stop and take notice as this guy was an ex Navy Seal - Sniper and really good at it. He had exceptional training and yet he was killed that easily. Kind of food for thought to those that think they are safe because they think they are tough.
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I don't know anything about this guy except a few things I've heard. First he served his country. Secondly, He wrote a book where he made at least one BS claim. lastly he was thinking he was doing something he obviously wasn't qualified to be doing with wounded soldiers and it got him dead.

I thank him for his service. If his efforts with soldiers were truly not self serving I thank him for wanting to try to help. Maybe his efforts should have been directed more towards raising funds for real help for these vets though.

He seems to have had a history of self promotion. That's not a crime but he shouldn't have been promoting himself into a qualified mental health worker.
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Oh dear. They refused a donation from a Christian group. What does that mean to you?


sky dancer I was thinking this way (not that your point wasn't good) they refused a donation {gift} from a Christen group?

Yet this could be anyones questions put in other ways.

And why would they do that? Can you explain this & the reasoning?

Yet even better is doing the research yourself, like I did as this does raise some interest in me.. To start:

wounded warrior project returns donation to Christian group - Yahoo! Search Results

Now one says a Christian Church and another says a Christian school, both in FL.

The first pick: Others can pick their own news story.

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‘We Were Heartbroken’: Wounded Warrior Project Reportedly Refused to Take Church’s ‘Religious in Nature’ Donation

Feb. 1, 2013 5:43 pmJason Howerton

Wounded Warrior Project is refusing to accept a Florida Christian church’s money because it is “religious in nature,” Fox News’ Todd Starnes reports. Liberty Baptist Church and Academy, located in Fort Pierce, Fla., is also a K-12 school.

We were heartbroken,” Pastor Wallace Cooley told Fox News.

It wasn’t until after Liberty Baptist Church and Academy had already paid a $100 registration fee to raise funds for Wounded Warrior Project that the they received an email from the non-profit organization.

“We must decline the opportunity to be the beneficiary of your event due to our fundraising event criteria, which doesn’t allow community events to be religious in nature,” WWP’s community events team wrote in an email. “Please note your registration fee will be refunded within the next 7-10 business days.”

Now comes the truth, sense the govt., is so deep into our lives, even this great group who help so many of todays Veterns many who still believe in a God... Has to place this fool of a statement into their fund rising.

Is that a possibility?

Which many just might have written WWP off... Now I to want to get to the bottom of this story.


Because Wounded Warrior Project considers itself to be a nonpartisan organization, the group says it can’t accept fundraising from companies “in which the product or message is religious in nature.”

The church was reportedly planning to accept a special offering on the last Sunday in February and students were collecting money from family and friends to give to WWP.

If you want this goes on and on. And the Church should know to well, that the Federal Govt., stands in the way when it comes to religion

“We had to tell our children and parents we can’t give to the Wounded Warrior Project…We are second-class citizens now because we are people of faith,” Cooley told Fox News.

The pastor said the church anticipated bringing in roughly $50,000 for military veterans.

Fox News has more details:

A Wounded Warrior told Fox News they would look into the matter. The organization did not respond to subsequent telephone calls.

The fundraising project was a joint effort by the 400-member church and the 460 students who attend the academy. The pastor said he first learned about WWP by watching Fox News Channel.

“We appreciate the freedoms we enjoy in this country and the fact that our soldiers have fought for freedom of religion,” he said. “We teach patriotism in our school.”

Wow they watch fox news.

Ending with this: TheBlaze has reached out to Wounded Warrior Project and will update this story as additional information becomes available.

To read Fox News’ full report, click here. So what is the story? Click it

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‘We Were Heartbroken’: Wounded Warrior Project Reportedly Refused to Take Church’s ‘Religious in Nature’ Donation | TheBlaze.com
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You seem to miss the point, two men are dead for doing something they thought would help remove the demons from the poor guys minds. Well it only takes one time when your life could be in danger. Now who will these too guys help?

As for the religious donations, what would you say if a Muslim group wanted to give them a donation? If they took one they would be forced to take the other now wouldn't they. So the set a standard leave religion up to those they help as they are there to repair their bodies if possible and if not at least be there with support not religious guidance.
So you don't try to help a fellow soldier just in case he goes over the edge?

Why wouldn't they take muslim donations?
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So you don't try to help a fellow soldier just in case he goes over the edge?

Why wouldn't they take muslim donations?
Sure I'm for helping a soldier that needs it for what ever reason. However the idea of taking them to a shooting range to work out their demons to me is a little strange. I've been where some of these guys are in my life but had the sense to get guns out of my home and reach till the problems had been brought under control completely. Lets me put it this way, you don't want to give a gun to a man that has anger management problems brought on by being in combat. They do pass over time with and some without professional help, but not all of us react war or violence the same.

Now the Wounded Warrior program is clear they don't accept donations from corporations, especially in the firearms industry as well as political or religious organizations which is clearly stated on their web page.

I can hear the screams now if they took money from a Muslim organization in this country while treating soldiers returning from fighting in that part of the world. You by the way would probably be the one screaming the loudest I would bet. Now I don't have a problem with them taking money from anyone personally, but that is their practice and their right. You know what rights are don't you, since you talk about them so much.
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Sure I'm for helping a soldier that needs it for what ever reason. However the idea of taking them to a shooting range to work out their demons to me is a little strange. I've been where some of these guys are in my life but had the sense to get guns out of my home and reach till the problems had been brought under control completely. Lets me put it this way, you don't want to give a gun to a man that has anger management problems brought on by being in combat. They do pass over time with and some without professional help, but not all of us react war or violence the same.

Now the Wounded Warrior program is clear they don't accept donations from corporations, especially in the firearms industry as well as political or religious organizations which is clearly stated on their web page.

I can hear the screams now if they took money from a Muslim organization in this country while treating soldiers returning from fighting in that part of the world. You by the way would probably be the one screaming the loudest I would bet. Now I don't have a problem with them taking money from anyone personally, but that is their practice and their right. You know what rights are don't you, since you talk about them so much.
Everyone deals with their demons differently. Who's to say shooting at the range is never a good idea. There may be times and people that is a good option. Obviously not this time but who knows what led up to the decision to go or why a trip to the range was settled on as a good activity.

WWP has every right to turn down any donations it pleases. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing muslims donate to helping our soldiers who are after all fighting the loons that religion has promoted. I also have a right to donate or not. See how that right thing works?
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Everyone deals with their demons differently. Who's to say shooting at the range is never a good idea. There may be times and people that is a good option. Obviously not this time but who knows what led up to the decision to go or why a trip to the range was settled on as a good activity.

WWP has every right to turn down any donations it pleases. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing muslims donate to helping our soldiers who are after all fighting the loons that religion has promoted. I also have a right to donate or not. See how that right thing works?
I agree you on this for the most part, and never have donated to them either. I have several charities I do give to but very selective about who gets it. Most of mine are local in nature and few national and none international.
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This guy had all the qualification as a mental health worker as Cap'n Kangaroo.
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