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MSNBC Caught Doctoring Clip From Romney/Ryan Rally

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MSNBC played a clip of a Romney/Ryan event where the crowds chanted "Romney! Romney!" after Romney started speaking and mentioned Ryan...Romney suggested to the crowd they start chanting "Romney/Ryan" instead...

That sounds pretty nice...Romney was, in essence, telling the crowd "You shouldn't JUST be yelling my name...Shout out Paul Ryan's name, too."...

But MSNBC CHANGED the "Romney!" chant to "Ryan!" to make it appear the VP candidate was getting more accolades then the presidential candidate, which is the narrative they WANTED to make...They needed to make the square peg fit into the pre-ordained round hole...


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What appears to be an unpopular Romney seeking appreciation and attention from a Paul Ryan-infatuated audience is really a man who is generously deflecting attention away from himself onto his VP nominee.
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Nah, it was just taken out of context
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I don't think you have anything here. Now we are going to go through an exercise where everyone here on the right hears "Romney, Romney" and everyone on the left will say "Ryan, Ryan" fact is it doesn't matter. It looks like Romney cannot draw a crowd without Ryan. So they are going to go back to campaining together again because of it. You have a bad candidate. What can I say. Half your party would dump him quick if someone else would jump in.
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I don't think you have anything here. Now we are going to go through an exercise where everyone here on the right hears "Romney, Romney" and everyone on the left will say "Ryan, Ryan" fact is it doesn't matter. It looks like Romney cannot draw a crowd without Ryan. So they are going to go back to campaining together again because of it. You have a bad candidate. What can I say. Half your party would dump him quick if someone else would jump in.
And there you have the EXACT response that this POS story was intended to produce. CONGRATULATIONS MIKEYY!!! You not only bought into the story, but you decided to intentionally ignore the facts when they were handed to you on a silver platter and DECIDE to believe the lie.

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And there you have the EXACT response that this POS story was intended to produce. CONGRATULATIONS MIKEYY!!! You not only bought into the story, but you decided to intentionally ignore the facts when they were handed to you on a silver platter and DECIDE to believe the lie.

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Hold on to hope if you want to FS but seriously, this is just excuse after excuse. The candidate is a screw up. Other than beating the others on the right he has screwed up all the normal prerequisites. He screwed up his international coming out. The convention was flat. He tried to jump the gun a couple weeks back to get Obama on the attacks and he screwed that as well. He gets caught saying dumb stuff like the 47% comment. I find he seems to sound whiny and desperate when he speaks. But that's just me. I think you are stuck with a loser.
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Hold on to hope if you want to FS but seriously, this is just excuse after excuse. The candidate is a screw up. Other than beating the others on the right he has screwed up all the normal prerequisites. He screwed up his international coming out. The convention was flat. He tried to jump the gun a couple weeks back to get Obama on the attacks and he screwed that as well. He gets caught saying dumb stuff like the 47% comment. I find he seems to sound whiny and desperate when he speaks. But that's just me. I think you are stuck with a loser.
But none of that has anything at all to do with MSNBC editing a video of him.
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I don't think you have anything here. Now we are going to go through an exercise where everyone here on the right hears "Romney, Romney" and everyone on the left will say "Ryan, Ryan" fact is it doesn't matter.
False...This isn't about what anyone simply hears...

It's about MSNBC DIRECTING YOU what to hear...

Here's what they actually put on the screen...



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Why This Trick Works: It works because people think they hear most words.

In fact, they rely on their eyes to "hear" words as much as their ears.

I realized this ten years ago as I got older and could not understand anyone when I was in a noisy bar -- unless I was looking right at them. Suddenly I could "hear" 90% of what they were saying.

If I was looking right at them, I could use both the limited amount I heard and add it to the lip-reading I had been doing, unconsciously, my whole life.

The eye is the king of the sensory organs. The eye trumps all.

When you add something for the eye -- lip movements, or chyron text suggesting to the eye (and then to the ears) what should be "heard" -- it wins the day. Given ambiguous inputs, the eye will "overrule" the ear and substitute its judgment.

That's the trick MSNBC used...By intentionally TELLING YOU that the crowd is chanting "Ryan" by placing "Crowd:Ryan!" on the screen...but you remove that text, the chant becomes something totally different...
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But none of that has anything at all to do with MSNBC editing a video of him.
By my post above, it wasn't an edit so much as an addition of text to push the viewers' senses toward a false narrative...
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But none of that has anything at all to do with MSNBC editing a video of him.
I don't see anything has been edited. Sounds like Ryan to me.
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