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Old 09-28-2012, 09:16 PM
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This went pretty much like I thought
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:41 PM
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This place has gotten so goddamned f*cked up!
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I heard the crowd chant "Ryan! Ryan! Ryan!" before this accusation came about.

Then I listened to the clip again, the crowd still went "Ryan! Ryan! Ryan!"

A third time, and I swear I could barely make out a "Mitt Romney!" before the chanting for Ryan started up.

I have a question though, how does one know that they're not being conditioned by the accusation of doctored footage to hear "Romney! Romney! Romney!"? If the subtitles on a screen are supposed to train someone to hear what they're reading, would that also work if we're being told they're really saying something else?
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I heard the crowd chant "Ryan! Ryan! Ryan!" before this accusation came about.

Then I listened to the clip again, the crowd still went "Ryan! Ryan! Ryan!"

A third time, and I swear I could barely make out a "Mitt Romney!" before the chanting for Ryan started up.
And Ryan's actions show what you heard was wrong...

If he was TRULY the object of the initial reaction, he would've never have gone the "Aw shucks" route when Romney included him after the chants....

His reaction was "You didn't have to include me in your chant"...If the chant was for him in the first place, he never would've done that...

Fascinating that Romney haters will try every angle to defend at all costs...
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Fascinating that Romney haters will try every angle to defend at all costs...
Funny how three liberals posted in this thread and they all claim the crowd chanted "Ryan."

Not only does politics make you see and think a certain way, it also is now making you hear things that are not there.

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One of the great mystery of modern life - Do progs actually believe the things they say to your face that are obviously not true, or do they just think you're too stupid not to know they're lying.
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One of the great mystery of modern life - Do progs actually believe the things they say to your face that are obviously not true, or do they just think you're too stupid not to know they're lying.
I believe liberals think if they admit the truth that the crowd was indeed chanting for Romney, they will be excluded from the Democratic Christmas card list this year and possibly exiled from the party.

Also, by admitting the crowd chanted for Romney, they would be admitting MSNBC indeed edited the tape, and it is against political philosophy to ever admit someone or group from your side was wrong.

Bias trumps truth and decency these days.
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The Blaze has testimony from others who attended the event claiming they were chanting "Romney, Romney".

But the Blaze is a conservative site, Right? Who can believe them?

Very well, how about the New York Times?

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After Mr. Ryan whooped up the crowd in Vandalia on Tuesday, Mr. Romney moved to the front of the stage. As the crowd began chanting “Romney! Romney!” he cut them off.“Wait a second,” Mr. Romney said, instructing the audience to cheer for “Romney-Ryan! Romney-Ryan!” They did. “There we go,” he said, pleased.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/us...hLybA1SOg&_r=0

Not good enough? How about a staff writer from WHIOTV that advertises itself as Dayton's largest TV station? She offers a minute by minute play by play from the notebook she filled at the event.

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@3:33 p.m.: “This is the man who knows how to do turnarounds,” Ryan says of Mitt Romney. “We need leadership … someone who will not blame other people for the next four years. … That’s this man right here,” Ryan says. “This is a man who knows how the economy works because he’s created over 10,000 jobs.”

@3:35 p.m.: Ryan pauses for a moment while the crowd begins to chant, “Romney, Romney, Romney …”

@3:36 p.m.: Mitt Romney begins speaking to the crowd. Asks them to chant, “Romney, Ryan; Romney, Ryan; Romney, Ryan …”
Romney at rally: I will not cut military spending | www.whiotv.com
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Default Re: MSNBC Caught Doctoring Clip From Romney/Ryan Rally

In fairness I should point out it turns out there's more to this story.

About that “Romney-Ryan” chanting on MSNBC Hot Air

The guy offering that post is a right winger, but in this case I don't think the left is going to have a problem with it.

Me personally, I still have a problem with his interpretation, even though I don't have a problem with the basic facts he describes. I disagree with how he interprets the facts, but that's OK. On the right we're allowed to disagree.
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