While on NPR, Sen. Rubio Questions Usefulness of NPR - Page 3

Coyote · #21 (**permalink**) 07-21-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PT Again

Name one of the subsidized industries that does not bring a return to the government. NPR returns nothing to the pot

It doesn't have to bring a cash return to the pot to have value.

Frankly - if those subsidized industries are doing so well - why aren't they standing on their own? Why are we subsidizing them?

One common subsidy is the government guaranteeing a lender payment if a borrower defaults for example, in certain airline industry loans, in many student loans, and small business administration loans. Doesn't sound like something is brought back to the pot there.

PT Again · #22 (**permalink**) 07-21-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Coyote

It doesn't have to bring a cash return to the pot to have value.

Frankly - if those subsidized industries are doing so well - why aren't they standing on their own? Why are we subsidizing them?

One common subsidy is the government guaranteeing a lender payment if a borrower defaults for example, in certain airline industry loans, in many student loans, and small business administration loans. Doesn't sound like something is brought back to the pot there.

Cut all that crap.........I dont care

But you are going to lose you liberal card if you keep suggeting they do away with those freebies

Coyote · #23 (**permalink**) 07-21-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PT Again

Cut all that crap.........I dont care

But you are going to lose you liberal card if you keep suggeting they do away with those freebies

mlurp · #24 (**permalink**) 07-21-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PT Again

Cut all that crap.........I dont care

But you are going to lose you liberal card if you keep suggeting they do away with those freebies

AzMike · #25 (**permalink**) 07-21-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Coyote

So how come you aren't calling to an end for energy subsidies and small business subsidies?

I've called for it hundreds of times. We need to get beyond protecting our guys and b*tching about others. Get rid of all subsidies and we will get better.

AzMike · #26 (**permalink**) 07-21-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PT Again

Name one of the subsidized industries that does not bring a return to the government. NPR returns nothing to the pot

I don't care about returning anything to the pot. Your return comes from your product whether that is radio few listen to or fuel everyone uses. The government shouldn't be in either. Let the competition work it out.

AzMike · #27 (**permalink**) 07-21-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Coyote

It doesn't have to bring a cash return to the pot to have value.

Frankly - if those subsidized industries are doing so well - why aren't they standing on their own? Why are we subsidizing them?

One common subsidy is the government guaranteeing a lender payment if a borrower defaults for example, in certain airline industry loans, in many student loans, and small business administration loans. Doesn't sound like something is brought back to the pot there.

On behalf of myself PT and Mlurp I welcome you with open arms to the conservative side.

cnredd · #28 (**permalink**) 07-22-2012, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Coyote

Frankly - if those subsidized industries are doing so well - why aren't they standing on their own? Why are we subsidizing them?

And yet you don't ask this of Green Energy loans?...

mlurp · #29 (**permalink**) 07-22-2012, 05:11 PM

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And yet you don't ask this of Green Energy loans?...

, very good point redd

I was thinking about last night as my mind wondered..

mlurp · #30 (**permalink**) 07-22-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AzMike

I've called for it hundreds of times. We need to get beyond protecting our guys and b*tching about others. Get rid of all subsidies and we will get better.

AzMike you do know why we have them, right? Although there are far to many and some for just a few people.

I agree to a point. As the lists of those who do benefit on a personal level is longer than any basketball player is tall. I call it govt. waste.

Yet about every nation allows their manufactors/farmer/etc., to have even more than America. The French come to my mind first.

Millionaire farmers who plant nothing, getting paid to grow

crops. Then sell what does grow (dried grass) in the winter to the ranchers up in the north & west when the weather turns on them.

I know this from personel experience, living in KS., CO., and in IN.

Bee keepers: Aww I could take all day doing a list. So lets just do a few links.

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Griping about government spending is almost as old as the idea of government itself.
Aside from a handful of extreme libertarians out there, most democratic citizens understand that it is necessary for the state to expend cash to ensure certain essential programs and national concerns are properly funded.

But then, there is that fiduciary gray area known as discretionary spending, a category that includes art and research grants, community projects and tax subsidies. These outlays are ripe for criticism due to the fact that the subsidies are usually proffered for the benefit of a fairly small group of people (or just one person) for an oft abstractly beneficial purpose. After all, one man’s essential peanut festival is just plain nuts to another.

With that it mind, here are 10 particularly controversial-sounding subsidies from all around the world that might just outrage the libertarian in you.

Number 10

Ink removal
United States

In 2002, California congresswoman Lois Capps successfully petitioned the Department of Justice for a $50,000 subsidy to spend on a tattoo-removal program in her home district of San Luis Obispo. The free service, which used laser removal techniques, was aimed at unemployed individuals and former gang members who felt their “ink” was an obstacle toward getting a new job or promotion due to social stigma. The subsidized program stipulated that eligible persons had to have tattoos that "interfered with their daily lives" and recipients of the procedure had to pledge not to get any more tattoos.

Number 9

Fueling crap fuel
United States

Finding new energy supplies is an increasingly important issue, and thus, attracts a lot of bold ideas (that usually require a government subsidy) for possible sources. It might surprise you to learn that poultry litter is seen as an especially promising possibility. This new interest was partially “fueled” by congress when, in 1999, it allotted a $225,000 grant to a federal demonstration project to determine whether litter could generate electricity. Against all reasonable strains of credulity, crap can apparently produce power. Consequently, the United States’ first large-scale poultry-litter power plant is now being built in Benson, Minnesota.

Number 8

Feting farseeing groundhogs: And we have some for this to
Canada

The Wiarton Groundhog Day Festival was invented by some residents of the small town of Wiarton, Ontario, in 1956 to help out a journalist who had come to town, spent his money drinking with locals, and needed a story to justify his expenses. Duly publicized, the faux festival caught on and years later a plucky groundhog, dubbed Wiarton Willie, was adopted as the town’s official mascot prognosticator. The original Willie passed away in 1999 at the ripe age of 22, but was promptly replaced by two new Willies. In 2000, the Canadian government subsidized the town with a $50,000 federal grant to fund the yearly festival.

Number 7

Ragin’ 3-year-olds
United States

In 2003, Iowa Senator Tom Harkin managed to get a $250,000 subsidy from the federal government to implement the National Preschool Anger Management Project. The project, which apparently exists in other areas across the country, is intended to help teachers and parents instruct preschoolers on how to develop positive coping skills for reducing and managing stress in their lives. Kiddies are taught stress-reduction techniques that will allow them to curtain their feelings of anger and anxiety. The subsidized program is aimed at those children who are living in high-risk environments, wherever in Iowa that may be.

Number 6

Shelling out for nut grounds
United States

Roughly 50% of all peanuts produced in the U.S. are grown within 100 miles of Dothan, Alabama. It’s appropriate then that Dothan has been home to the National Peanut Festival since 1938. The festival is held each fall to honor local peanut growers and celebrate the new harvest. The annual activities -- which include a beauty pageant, live music and a parade -- make the festival sound like an ordinary town fair, but most fairs don’t receive a $202,500 subsidy from the federal government. That is exactly how much local congressman Terry Everett managed to finagle from his peers on Capitol Hill in 2003.

Government subsidies for turkey hunting, witchcraft and breast milk...

And this is but 4 of 10 items, so now I will post the search page, and anyone can search further for all of the wasted subsidies and the others.

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Read more: Crazy Government Subsidies - AskMen

My Search Page: Lists of US Government subsidies - Yahoo! Search Results

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