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Old 01-22-2008, 11:19 AM
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First, CNN ran this report...

Gender or race: Black women voters face tough choices in S.C.

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Recent polls show black women are expected to make up more than a third of all Democratic voters in South Carolina's primary in five days.

For these women, a unique, and most unexpected dilemma, presents itself: Should they vote their race, or should they vote their gender?

No other voting bloc in the country faces this choice.


Democratic analyst Jehmu Greene says, "We've all wanted the day to come where there was a black person in the White House, where there was going to be a woman in the White House. I don't think we imagined it would be having to decide one or the other."

Greene says women, including herself, face pressure to vote their race. In the African-American community, there is a perception that race trumps gender, she says.

Clinton supporters are seen as sellouts, Greene and others say.

Hairdresser Shontell Horlback, who is undecided, says, "It's not like I'm selling out, not that I'm not keeping it real 'cause I am, but keeping it real is actually the best candidate for the job."

Jackson, the Clinton supporter, says she doesn't care what others think. "They don't pay my bills. And they're not attached to my belly. Nobody is attached to my belly but me. They don't feed me, clothe me. I don't care what they think. ... She's a woman, I'm a woman."
Now you may be thinking what I'm thinking...

"How about voting for the best PERSON and leave race and gender out of it?...You'd have to be an unitelligent and uneducated fool to vote simply for race or gender."...

And the people who've read that article agree wholeheartedly...They ripped CNN such a new hole they had to create ANOTHER article for the bashing they took...

CNN readers respond angrily to 'race or gender' story

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Within minutes of posting a story on CNN's homepage called "Gender or race: Black women voters face tough choices in South Carolina," readers reacted quickly and angrily.

Many took umbrage at the story's suggestion that black women voters face "a unique, and most unexpected dilemma" about voting their race or their gender.

CNN received dozens of e-mails shortly after posting the story, which focuses largely on conversations about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama that a CNN reporter observed at a hair salon in South Carolina whose customers are predominantly African-American.

The story states: "For these women, a unique, and most unexpected dilemma, presents itself: Should they vote their race, or should they vote their gender?"

An e-mailer named Tiffany responded sarcastically: "Duh, I'm a black woman and here I am at the voting booth. Duh, since I'm illiterate I'll pull down the lever for someone. Hm... Well, he black so I may vote for him... oh wait she a woman I may vote for her... What Ise gon' do? Oh lordy!"

Tiffany urged CNN to "pull this racist crap off" the Web site and to stop calling Hillary the "top female candidate."

"Stop calling Barack the "Black" candidate," she wrote.


Many readers were upset that the story did not delve beyond a cursory mention of the issues...

...Matt e-mailed, "The article itself shows black women have brains and actually choose candidates based on issues and not just gender or race, but CNN doesn't seem to give them that credit."

Others responding to the story wrote that they want CNN and other media to focus on the substance of the candidates' accomplishments and stances on issues, rather than their appearance.

"Since Edwards no longer officially exists, as a white male I face the same choice - either I vote my race (Clinton) or my gender (Obama). Or I could just pick the candidate based on who I think would be best," wrote Michael.

Another e-mailer, D.T., who describes herself as a young, white woman, said voters should choose the candidate best qualified to lead.

"I'm sure there are plenty of black women who are Republican and could care less who the Dem leader will be," she said. "Close your eyes and look at who can fulfill the best to their promises
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I've heard some pundits talk about how it should be time to move past race and gender, and for them to not even be an issue.

Which is funny cause in most ways, I think it's the pundits and news media who are MAKING IT an issue in completely arbitrary and often denigrating ways.
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I've heard some pundits talk about how it should be time to move past race and gender, and for them to not even be an issue.

Which is funny cause in most ways, I think it's the pundits and news media who are MAKING IT an issue in completely arbitrary and often denigrating ways.
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Well that certainly was offensive. I'm sure there are a black woman or two that are going to vote for Edwards. And I like Obama although I'm undecided at this point. I'm really getting tired of the race/gender issue. That was a very polarizing and partonizing article. It might reflect the views of a handful of women, but I don't find a conversation in a beautyshop very worthy of national news status. As far as I'm concerned it's a non-issue that the media keeps insisting on playing up.
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I'm sitting here trying to figure out which news service isn't offensive.
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..You'd have to be an unitelligent and uneducated fool to vote simply for race or gender."...
I don't really agree. I think most of us know no matter who we elect very little will change. It's not like our country will be flipped entirely upside down by electing choice A over choice B. Especially when you are considering two candidates that are both Democrats. If you thought there wasn't too big a difference between Hilary and Obama then you might be motivated by which piece of "history' would mean more to you: Seeing the first black man elected or the first woman. Doesn't necessarily make you stupid or unintelligent. Particularly if you're old and have a genuine desire to see such history made in your lifetime. Either one would be groundbreaking and so it's not a factor that should be ignored and there's nothing wrong with the media discussing it.
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I won't be voting for either Hilary or Obama but there is a little part of me that finds the idea of either one of them rather exciting just on a "historical" level. I can't stand Hilary but I'd love my daughter to grow up knowing a woman is in the white house. It would be sort of thrilling. Maybe not something a white man can understand as Presidents are always white men.
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Race or gender - I was wondering when that card would be played. In this day and age, none of this should even be in our minds as we move forward.

Certainly not in mine, I have one view on voting for the presidency. I vote on the candidates record of serving the American people, what they have actually done - not what they tout as campaign promise. Campaign promises are almost never fulfilled - it's not solely up to them, and hopefully it never will be.

A candidates true measure records itself with the test of time. Where they stand on a single issue matters very little, if they can't stay the course and get it accomplished. I have been doing far too much reading as the polls narrow down the field, and the reading reflects a great many things to me.

#1 - The American people are used to having career politicians in office, for the most part, rather than true statesmen. A politician will "sell" you their cause, whereas a statesmen will tell you the truth as they see it.

#2 - It has been a very long time since a President with a (real) military service record was in office. Bush Jr. would hardly qualify this, and his father was in the CIA (in no way qualifies).
Why would this matter? Because when you have stood on foreign soil with a weapon and a uniform, in the best interest of your nation, it makes you much more aware of how sacred the US truly is.
We are born free, and yet any member of the armed forces has elected to sacrifice that personal freedom for the freedom of many back home.
Although politicians take an oath to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States, the oath a soldier takes is far more involved, as it very well could mean to death. This is a difference in commitment that shows in military veteran candidates.

#3 - The news media at this point, are showing their true colors (green as in money). I watch the news for a few hours every day, and yet all I see are commercials for "Billary" or Obama. I have never once seen a commercial for any of the other candidates in the running, and this shows better than any just how flawed our process has become.
In fairness, I feel that to show a commercial for one candidate, you should be required to show commercials in equal timeslot and quality for the other candidates. It is about choice, is it not?
They are merely embracing those that will perform in their best corporate interests, and it does show me who I won't be voting for (as I don't own or run a media agency, and I do care for our rights as citizens).

#4 - The best candidates barely have the money to make notice. I see personal (or corporate) wealth as an indication of compromise. Most sell-out queens in politics are the most dangerous people on earth. If they are not greedy in themselves, they have aligned with greed to get elected - who will they perform for while in office?

It's probably important to point out that I don't believe in the partied political system, and I don't believe that the US was ever intended to perform this way. In voting based on candidate record, I would have to vote for Mike Gravel first, and John McCain second.
Mike Gravel has stood the test of time in politics, and we all have him to thank for many things that go unrecognized (ending the military draft in 1975 for instance). He also never sought office for what it would do for himself personally - he calls his lack of campaign wealth a "badge of courage" and I commend him for that, as he hasn't sold out to private interests.
John McCain has stood the test of time as well, serving many years on our behalf - and taking many stands alone for the better of our nation. He understands what it takes to be a leader, and an American, and he understands the true price of compromise.

In this election, we need a President with the guts to make the changes we need to maintain our stance in the world. And I feel that either of these 2 men have SHOWN us they can do that - time and time again. They both believe steadfast that our Constitution and Bill of Rights have never let us down in our history, and won't as long as they have something to do with it.
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First, CNN ran this report...

Gender or race: Black women voters face tough choices in S.C.

Now you may be thinking what I'm thinking...

"How about voting for the best PERSON and leave race and gender out of it?...You'd have to be an unitelligent and uneducated fool to vote simply for race or gender."...

And the people who've read that article agree wholeheartedly...They ripped CNN such a new hole they had to create ANOTHER article for the bashing they took...

CNN readers respond angrily to 'race or gender' story

CNN...
Getting the backlash it deserves...
lets vote for the best candidate and his political platform, not just because he /she is a woman or black..
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