Fox spent weeks promoting apparent tea party scam | Media Matters for America

I have no doubts that some Tea Party members will be rightfully offended by the above...
The hypothetical core ideology of the "Tea Party" and its efforts should automatically impugn such partisan efforts.

For those that are not offended (and just think it's jim dandy) that I recognize the inherent hypocrisy and corruption of some in the Tea Party movement.
For some, the "support" for the tea party is based more on how it could damage Democrats than it is on the supposed ideology...

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Republicans have a sweet racket because they run on "government is ineffective," and then when they **** things up, they go, "See." – Bill Maher

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint.
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist."
--Dom Hélder Pessoa Câmara

Is there really any point in quoting extreme left wing blog sites to attack what you perceive to be and extreme right wing news station?

Leftist jerks don't like conservatives. Next?

Breaking news: people gave money for a political cause.

I wonder how many stupid liberals give how much money to the source of this ground-breaking revelation?

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Dudes ... you're just NOT THAT MUCH ****ING SMARTER than all of us. GET OVER YOURSELVES!
-- Me, to President Obama and the rest of his self-loving amateur staff.

"leftist jerks"?


Yes. The people making the observations are partisan.

Are you attempting to establish a standard whereby partisan people who make observations should automatically have those observations disregarded because the person making that observation is partisan?
I would like a serious answer to that question...

See, I would think that a person should be more concerned over whether the stated facts are true or not.
Form your own opinions based on the facts at hand. Not just disregard the situation cause the person making the observation has partisanship.
But evidently, you don't care as long as you can accuse somebody of being partisan...

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Republicans have a sweet racket because they run on "government is ineffective," and then when they **** things up, they go, "See." – Bill Maher

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint.
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist."
--Dom Hélder Pessoa Câmara

If you want to have anyone take something as 'fact', don't quote blatantly biased sources.

Just based on that site and the language used in what you quoted, there's no reason to believe anything they say.

If all you do is barf up extreme left wing opinion articles, don't expect me to keep cleaning it up for you. Eventually I'll just leave these ridiculous threads to the lefties to hear themselves kissing each others behinds...

Your problem is that you think you're actually getting facts from extreme left wing opinion blogs.

Wake up man...

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Dudes ... you're just NOT THAT MUCH ****ING SMARTER than all of us. GET OVER YOURSELVES!
-- Me, to President Obama and the rest of his self-loving amateur staff.

Do you consider yourself biased?
If so, should people not listen to your words as evidence of anything?


The article is filled with links substantiating their statements.
If you're just looking for an excuse to ignore criticism of this organization, I guess you've already got it.
If you're looking for truth, you could try LOOKING...

Let's see...
The money that went back to that organization can be documented here...
Schedule B for Line #21B

Do you have some excuse for ignoring that?


And here you go insulting people as opposed to looking for the facts...


May you be judged by your own standards...

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And with that in mind, if you could give a direct answer to the question I would appreciate it...
Are you attempting to establish a standard whereby partisan people who make observations should automatically have those observations disregarded because the person making that observation is partisan?

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Republicans have a sweet racket because they run on "government is ineffective," and then when they **** things up, they go, "See." – Bill Maher

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint.
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist."
--Dom Hélder Pessoa Câmara

Evidence? If I'm stating facts, then they can be verified via independent and non-biased sources.

If I'm stating an opinion, a 'bias' if you will, then there's no 'listening to my words as evidence'.

You continue to demonstrate the left's inability to distinguish fact from opinion.

Then use their sources, not their biased opinion.

Obviously you were more interested in the biased opinion article than the actual facts or you would have posted them.

People donated money to a political organization. Again, the breaking news is what?

I have no idea where you got that idea. I am interested in pointing out hypocrites though. People should claim to be independent when they're not. People shouldn't use extreme partisan crap as source material 'fact' either.

Not if you want to actually get someone to read it.

You're damn straight you're going to get a lot more interest from me if you state YOUR opinion about a news item from a reputable source than if you throw huffigton post or daily kos crap out here every day.

I don't need constant proof from the left that they worship these extremist opinion sites and can't form thoughts of their own.

I'm sure you feel the same way flipped around. Think about it for a change...

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Dudes ... you're just NOT THAT MUCH ****ING SMARTER than all of us. GET OVER YOURSELVES!
-- Me, to President Obama and the rest of his self-loving amateur staff.

The same is true of this article.


And on that, the same can be said of this article.
Just because the "leftists" involved came away with their assessment doesn't mean everybody has to agree.

But you aren't even bothering to look at the facts or offer your own assessment.
You're just ignoring the whole thing because the source is biased.


You can cut out the false accusations.
You disregarded THE ENTIRE ARTICLE, ignoring any distinction between the article's facts and the article's opinions.

I never called an "opinion" of the article as fact.
I was questioning why you were ignoring THE ENTIRE article just cause it was posted by people who have a bias.


The article gave the sources.
Next time, I'll point that out instead of hoping that people can recognize that for themselves...


No.
I just figured if anybody was interested in the situation, they could see that for themselves.


See, at this stage you're just proving my point...
If you didn't bother yourself to read the article, don't waste my time with these questions.

For those who ARE interested, the article clearly states in the OPENING SENTENCES:

TPM Media's Zachary Roth reported earlier in the week that the political action committee that organized the Tea Party Express -- Our Country Deserves Better PAC -- funneled almost two-thirds of its spending from July to November back to the political consulting firm from which it was spawned, Russo, Marsh, and Associates. More than $850,000 of the money the supposedly grassroots PAC collected went to the firm of GOP political operatives who ran it.

And I don't know about other people, but the statements made there essentially boil down to a "fact" situation (with give or take for how the situation is phrased).
It is a fact (not an opinion) as to "two-thirds of its spending" going to that particular "consulting" firm.
It is a fact (not an opinion) as to whether that amount was "more than $850,000".

But of course, some people are more interested in figuring out excuses to ignore the article than to actually look at facts...


From your words. On this thread, and in at least one other...

Michael1: "Is there really any point in quoting extreme left wing blog sites to attack what you perceive to be and extreme right wing news station?
Leftist jerks don't like conservatives. Next?"

And actually, a later comment from you also leads to that conclusion:

Michael1: "People shouldn't use extreme partisan crap as source material 'fact' either."

That's funny.
In the other thread, the POINT of the article was regarding Republican hypocrisy in criticizing Obama for a situation similar to Bush's...

But there, you ignored the hypocrisy to complain about ...
"partisanship"...


Was this article claiming they were published by "independents"?


Again, WHY DOES IT MATTER if a "fact" is being repeated by somebody who is partisan, as opposed to somebody who is NOT partisan???
If it's a "fact", it's either true or false.

OPINIONS are an entirely separate issue.
And on that front, it is very dangerous to disregard other people's opinions just cause that person is "partisan"...


Michael...
YOU are the one who didn't read the article.
YOU are the one who dismissed the article because it was "partisan".

Quite frankly, if we were to export that attitude towards others then anybody is justified in ignoring the people on the "right" cause they are "partisan".
Then the people on the "right" can just be ignored, right?


I personally don't work like that.
I don't understand how people can.
By that standard, Limbaugh, Coulter, Glenn Beck, etc, etc, should all have their VOICES ignored...
The FACTS that they comment on would likewise get ignored.

I think it's much better to listen to their facts, analyze whether they are true, and then give an explanation for a countering position...
Otherwise, people just have excuses to ignore other people...


Wow dude.
That's pretty damn insulting!

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Republicans have a sweet racket because they run on "government is ineffective," and then when they **** things up, they go, "See." – Bill Maher

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint.
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist."
--Dom Hélder Pessoa Câmara

Michael1...PLEASE post examples of what you would believe to be unbiased political articles! That would help us understand where in the hell you are coming from....

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Or better yet Michael1, why don't you post some proof refuting what that article said. You say it's BS, yet you have no reason to think that, other than your own partisan hatred and that's not a valid argument.

I personnally saw Fox hawking these marches at least 2 weeks before the rally. Are you trying to tell me I didn't see what I saw?

Your position is ridiculous!

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"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land,
it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy”.
- James Madison

Fox is not just biased...Fox has become part of the machine and yes,there's a difference.I saw the same video...it cannot be refuted.

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"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"-FDR

http://jeffersonblog.history.org/doe...ecision-making