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Despite court's decision, Florida withholds school board salaries over mask mandates
What in the hell has taken hold of Ron DeSantis?
Could it be greed for power and $$$?



nah! that couldn't be it.
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It could be DeSantis is following the science that shows most masks are cosmetic in stopping the spread of Covid-19 and variants. Or, that school age children have very little incidence of transmission and are more at risk from the flu than the China virus.

https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampp...ild-abuse.html

Here is the bottom line from a Duke University study the substitutes politics for scientific rigor.

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Distancing efforts showed no effect in North Carolina Schools.” Instead, the email from the Duke Weekly summarized it as follows: “Safe, in-person schooling under COVID-19. In a word, masks.”

In an inversion of logic, the report concluded that the only nonvariable in the data set must be the cause of low transmission rates in North Carolina schools. It should be obvious that proving some components of a strategy as useless doesn’t demonstrate that others are effective. Such a claim requires a control group or appropriate statistical methods. The researchers might as well have attributed the low Covid rate in schools to wearing shoes.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...ks-11625761644

Just as when Democrats would forum shop for an activist Federal district judge to block President Trump with a nationwide injunction Florida Democrats want to hobble the Republican Governor with a unanimous consent requirement from the State's judges. Of course a Democrat President can defy the SCOTUS simply by claiming Constitutional scholars he likes disagree with their ruling.

The so-called party of science rejects it or substitutes corruption when it can be used to smear a potential rival for the Presidency. Likewise the judiciary is granted unlimited power when it acts as a political weapon for Democrats.
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It could be DeSantis is following the science that shows most masks are cosmetic in stopping the spread of Covid-19 and variants. Or, that school age children have very little incidence of transmission and are more at risk from the flu than the China virus.

https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampp...ild-abuse.html

Here is the bottom line from a Duke University study the substitutes politics for scientific rigor.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...ks-11625761644

Just as when Democrats would forum shop for an activist Federal district judge to block President Trump with a nationwide injunction Florida Democrats want to hobble the Republican Governor with a unanimous consent requirement from the State's judges. Of course a Democrat President can defy the SCOTUS simply by claiming Constitutional scholars he likes disagree with their ruling.

The so-called party of science rejects it or substitutes corruption when it can be used to smear a potential rival for the Presidency. Likewise the judiciary is granted unlimited power when it acts as a political weapon for Democrats.
If a school board wants to institute a health department guideline for opening schools during a pandemic, king desantis is wrong to try to thwart that.
his predecessor thought he was the king of florida too and dum basses sent him to the senate to wreck even more havoc. they did this because of propaganda. Though it's a fool's errand to try to argue with a fool, I believe these people, like yourself are mislead by a very sophisticated ad campaign to benefit those companies raking in billions of dollars, a lot of it yours.
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Despite court's decision, Florida withholds school board salaries over mask mandates
What in the hell has taken hold of Ron DeSantis?
Could it be greed for power and $$$?



nah! that couldn't be it.
I kind of think republicans are shooting themselves in the foot regarding opposition to mask mandates. I can understand opposing vaccine mandates and vaccine passports. After all there is the slight risk of getting blood clots and myocarditis(heart inflammation) and if the anti-vaxxers are to be trusted you can't sue if you get ill side effects from vaccines. But as far as I know there are no potential fatal or other harmful side effects from wearing a mask. This will probably bite DeSantis and other republicans in the ass.
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I kind of think republicans are shooting themselves in the foot regarding opposition to mask mandates. I can understand opposing vaccine mandates and vaccine passports. After all there is the slight risk of getting blood clots and myocarditis(heart inflammation) and if the anti-vaxxers are to be trusted you can't sue if you get ill side effects from vaccines. But as far as I know there are no potential fatal or other harmful side effects from wearing a mask. This will probably bite DeSantis and other republicans in the ass.
That a horrible way to look at freedom...

"Let the government dictate, but "ONLY" of it doesn't make us go too far out of our way!"...

There were no "side effects" to Jews wearing yellow armbands, either...
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That a horrible way to look at freedom...

"Let the government dictate, but "ONLY" of it doesn't make us go too far out of our way!"...

There were no "side effects" to Jews wearing yellow armbands, either...
1.Requiring school children to wear masks is no different than telling them what clothes they can and can't wear to school.Besides that if you wanted to walk around naked then you would be fined or possibly taken to jail. So pretending that wearing a mask is somehow an infringement on our freedoms is absurd.

2.Wearing a mask stops the moisture droplets that contain bacteria and viruses from landing on other people and surfaces when you cough. The Jews were forced to wear a yellow badge to make it easier for the Nazis to round up and to force people to not associate with them. So comparing wearing mask to forcing Jews to wear a yellow armband is absurd and a insult to what Jews went through. What next are you going to compare clipping your toenails to the pain of getting shot?
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1.Requiring school children to wear masks is no different than telling them what clothes they can and can't wear to school.Besides that if you wanted to walk around naked then you would be fined or possibly taken to jail. So pretending that wearing a mask is somehow an infringement on our freedoms is absurd.

2.Wearing a mask stops the moisture droplets that contain bacteria and viruses from landing on other people and surfaces when you cough. The Jews were forced to wear a yellow badge to make it easier for the Nazis to round up and to force people to not associate with them. So comparing wearing mask to forcing Jews to wear a yellow armband is absurd and a insult to what Jews went through. What next are you going to compare clipping your toenails to the pain of getting shot?
There is no scientific evidence that masking kids in school does anything to reduce the spread of Covid. However, it does affect their social skills while effectively placing a barrier to trap warm moist air leaving their lungs and creating a culture for bacteria to grow.


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A group of parents in Gainesville, FL, sent 6 face masks to a lab at the University of Florida, requesting an analysis of contaminants found on the masks after they had been worn. The resulting report found that five masks were contaminated with bacteria, parasites, and fungi, including three with dangerous pathogenic and pneumonia-causing bacteria. Although the test is capable of detecting viruses, including SARS-CoV-2, only one virus was found on one mask (alcelaphine herpesvirus 1).
https://rationalground.com/dangerous...ns-face-masks/

The risk of Covid in children is virtually zero while the contaminants that are being grown on these face masks have the potential to do far greater harm. I would NEVER allow someone to put a face mask on a healthy child.
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1.Requiring school children to wear masks is no different than telling them what clothes they can and can't wear to school.Besides that if you wanted to walk around naked then you would be fined or possibly taken to jail. So pretending that wearing a mask is somehow an infringement on our freedoms is absurd.

2.Wearing a mask stops the moisture droplets that contain bacteria and viruses from landing on other people and surfaces when you cough. The Jews were forced to wear a yellow badge to make it easier for the Nazis to round up and to force people to not associate with them. So comparing wearing mask to forcing Jews to wear a yellow armband is absurd and a insult to what Jews went through. What next are you going to compare clipping your toenails to the pain of getting shot?
Nobody is suggesting children should be allowed to attend school naked. The subject is needlessly forcing children to wear masks in school.

A mask can reduce relatively large droplets transmission but the Covid-19 virus is too small to be caught by anything short of an N-95 respirator. Transmission by contact is far more likely but the incidents of Covid-19 infection in schoolchildren are rare.
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While I think everyone should be wearing a mask where appropriate, we live in a free society and as such, no one should be able to dictate to you what you must do.

For the most part while I'm pro mask wearing, I'm anti mask mandates. I believe very few people are going, "Well I wouldn't wear a mask, but since it's mandated, I guess I will." You probably have a lot more people who are saying, "I ain't going to wear a mask, you can't mandate me to do that." Who otherwise would if simply asked.

I also happen to think mask wearing is overrated when 95% of the masks out there only "help" and the amount they help is very little and if they aren't being replaced or PROPERLY cleaned after EVERY use. They don't help at ALL. In fact they make the spread worse if not replaced or cleaned. And let's be honest, how many people go days without cleaning or replacing their masks?

Why have people stopped talking about washing your hands? Covering your mouth when you cough (even if you ARE wearing a mask)? And avoiding unnecessary social interactions? Instead everyone is saying, wear your mask, it's easy and you'll be fine. It's like suddenly, mask wearing is the magic bullet. It's not.
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Nobody is suggesting children should be allowed to attend school naked. The subject is needlessly forcing children to wear masks in school.

A mask can reduce relatively large droplets transmission but the Covid-19 virus is too small to be caught by anything short of an N-95 respirator. Transmission by contact is far more likely but the incidents of Covid-19 infection in schoolchildren are rare.
If the covid virus was just air born and floating around in the air in your windpipe then you would be correct. However viruses are attached to those droplets that the masks catch.


https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/...-face-masks#s2

Surgical Masks
If worn properly, a surgical mask is meant to help block large-particle droplets, splashes, sprays, or splatter that may contain germs (viruses and bacteria), keeping it from reaching your mouth and nose. Surgical masks may also help reduce exposure of your saliva and respiratory secretions to others.


https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...k/art-20485449

Medical masks

Also called surgical masks, these are loosefitting disposable masks. They're meant to protect the wearer from contact with droplets and sprays that may contain germs.
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