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Georgia's Gov. Brian Kemp is explicitly banning Georgia's cities and counties from ordering people to wear masks in public places. He voided orders on Wednesday that at least 15 local governments across the state had adopted even though Kemp had earlier said cities and counties had no power to order masks during the coronavirus pandemic.
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An increasing number of other states order residents to wear masks in public, including Alabama, which announced such a ban Wednesday.

The Republican governor has instead been trying to encourage voluntary mask wearing, including telling fans that reduced infections from mask-wearing would make college football season possible.
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Savannah Mayor Van Johnson was the first local official to defy Kemp and order masks, and had said police would start writing $500 citations to businesses that didn't enforce the law.

"It is officially official. Governor Kemp does not give a damn about us," Johnson wrote on Twitter Wednesday night. "Every man and woman for himself/herself. Ignore the science and survive the best you can."


many other city officials are surprised and upset too.
but look the butt-head and chief just banned hospitals from sending data to the CDC so I guess it's a race for who can care less about people.
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Default Re: Georgia governor bans cities from ordering people to wear face masks

It’s just a mask.
It’s just six feet.
It’s just two weeks.
It’s just non-essential businesses.
It’s just non-essential workers.
It’s just a bar.
It’s just a restaurant.
It’s just to keep from overwhelming the hospitals.
It’s just until the cases go down.
It’s just to flatten the curve.
It’s just a few inmates.
It’s just to keep others from being scared.
It’s just for a few more weeks.
It’s just until we get a vaccine.
It’s just a bracelet.
It’s just an app.
It’s just for tracing.
It’s just to let people know you’re safe to be around.
It’s just to let others know who you’ve been in contact with.
It’s just a few more months.
It’s just some more inmates.
It’s just a video.
It’s just a post.
It’s just an email account.
It’s just for protecting other from hate speech.
It’s just for protecting others from hurt feelings.
It’s just a large gathering but for protests.
It’s just a few violent protests.
It’s just a little micro chip.
It’s just a blood test.
It’s just a test.
It’s just a scan.
It’s just for medical information.
It’s just to store a vaccination certificate.
It’s just like a credit card.
It’s just a few places that don’t take cash.
It’s just so you can travel.
It’s just so you can get your driver’s license.
It’s just so you can vote.
It’s just mail-in voting.
It’s just a few more years.
It’s just a piece of cloth.
It's just your freedoms....gone forever.

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Old 07-16-2020, 12:45 PM
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Georgia governor bans cities from ordering people to wear face masks



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many other city officials are surprised and upset too.
but look the butt-head and chief just banned hospitals from sending data to the CDC so I guess it's a race for who can care less about people.
If we truly follow the science then we find masks don't help. And if we care about people then we should follow the science, not the politics.
By Erika Edwards


As coronavirus cases continue to rise, a growing number of Americans are opting to cover their noses and mouths with makeshift masks, including bandannas, scarves or other wraps, when venturing into public.

While the science behind whether masks can prevent a person from catching the coronavirus hasn't changed (a mask does not help a healthy person avoid infection), public guidance may be shifting.
On Tuesday, President Trump said Americans could use scarves as makeshift protective masks.

"You can use a scarf. A lot of people have scarves," Trump told reporters during a news conference at the White House. "There is certainly no harm to it. I would say do it rather than going out to get a mask.

Dr. Fauci on curbing death toll: States must 'strictly' follow guidelines
March 31, 2020 / 07:59

Officially, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that wearing a mask is unnecessary for healthy individuals, but Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said federal health officials are actively discussing changing that guidance.

"Given the fact that there is a degree of transmission from asymptomatic individuals who may not know that they’re infected, we need to at least examine the possibility, as long as we’re absolutely certain we don’t take the masks away from who are health care providers who need them," Fauci said in an interview with NBC News' Savannah Guthrie on Tuesday night.

"It doesn’t need to be a classical mask. But something that would have someone prevent them from infecting others," Fauci added. "This is actively being looked at."

The potential change, which remains under discussion internally at the CDC according to an official, would involve do-it-yourself types of fabric coverings for the face, not the kinds of masks used by health care providers. The theory is that the homemade masks would help reduce the risk of unknowingly spreading the virus through coughs, sneezes, even yawns or simple conversation.

The coronavirus is spread predominantly through large respiratory droplets, which are thought to travel about six feet through the air.

There is no scientific evidence that wearing face coverings would have a measurable impact on flattening the coronavirus curve. And whether it would have any impact at all is still up for debate.

Potential for benefit

On the one hand, experts say people who cover their faces may be more likely to follow other health guidance, such as proper hand washing, social distancing and disinfecting surfaces.

What's more, a mask "is a visible, physical memory and behavioral aid to not touch your eyes, nose and mouth without sanitizing or washing your hands," Dr. Gregory Poland, an infectious diseases expert and the director of the Mayo Clinic's Vaccine Research Group in Rochester, Minnesota, said.

And giving the general public something tangible to do could be empowering during a pandemic with many unknowns and uncertainties.

Potential for risk

But some experts say a mask may give the user a false sense of security. And the eyes — an important pathway for the virus to infect a person — remain exposed even though the mouth and nose are covered.

Surgeon General Jerome Adams has been outspoken against healthy people wearing masks or other coverings in public.

1/3 Regarding masks:@WHO @CDCgov & my office have consistently recommended against the general public wearing masks as there is scant or conflicting evidence they benefit individual wearers in a meaningful way, but real concerns about pulling from the healthcare worker supply... pic.twitter.com/uvjT31ZGt7
— U.S. Surgeon General (@Surgeon_General) March 28, 2020
"@WHO @CDCgov and my office have consistently recommended against the general public wearing masks as there is scant or conflicting evidence they benefit individual wearers in a meaningful way," Adams wrote on Twitter.

Facial coverings must also be changed and washed often. And if a mask gets wet, even from the moisture emitted when a person exhales, the fabric could be more likely to transmit the virus.

"Once the mask becomes moist, you don't want to touch your face or the mask because you have to assume it's contaminated," Poland said. Handmade masks can be laundered appropriately in regular home washing machines, he added.

Download the NBC News app for full coverage of the coronavirus outbreak

Perhaps the biggest concern for changing facial covering guidelines is that the public might stock up on masks meant for people who are sick and health care workers. Adams previously tweeted about this, too, writing, "seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS! If health care providers can't get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk."

Ex-CDC Chief on confusion over masks
March 31, 2020 / 05:48

To be clear, the guidelines would not apply to surgical or N95 masks, which are in short supply in the U.S., and should be reserved for "people on the front lines, the doctors and nurses and transporters who are there to save our lives," Dr. Thomas Frieden, former head of the CDC, told MSNBC on Tuesday.

Indeed, some health care providers say they've had to resort to rationing the few medical masks they do have.
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Itís just a mask.
Itís just six feet.
Itís just two weeks.
Itís just non-essential businesses.
Itís just non-essential workers.
Itís just a bar.
Itís just a restaurant.
Itís just to keep from overwhelming the hospitals.
Itís just until the cases go down.
Itís just to flatten the curve.
Itís just a few inmates.
Itís just to keep others from being scared.
Itís just for a few more weeks.
Itís just until we get a vaccine.
Itís just a bracelet.
Itís just an app.
Itís just for tracing.
Itís just to let people know youíre safe to be around.
Itís just to let others know who youíve been in contact with.
Itís just a few more months.
Itís just some more inmates.
Itís just a video.
Itís just a post.
Itís just an email account.
Itís just for protecting other from hate speech.
Itís just for protecting others from hurt feelings.
Itís just a large gathering but for protests.
Itís just a few violent protests.
Itís just a little micro chip.
Itís just a blood test.
Itís just a test.
Itís just a scan.
Itís just for medical information.
Itís just to store a vaccination certificate.
Itís just like a credit card.
Itís just a few places that donít take cash.
Itís just so you can travel.
Itís just so you can get your driverís license.
Itís just so you can vote.
Itís just mail-in voting.
Itís just a few more years.
Itís just a piece of cloth.
It's just your freedoms....gone forever.

Edit to add, source from Mewe website, author not specified.
it's hard; I get it.

people aren't used to being told what to do. my uncle was born in a quarantine camp. you can bet if you had yellow fever you'd be sent there till it was gone.
tb you were sent to a sanatorium even when I was young. I knew people who had been. they were sent away and their families were quarantined for a period of time. their clothes etc were burned.
we know more about tb now and how it is transmitted
people are doing the same thing with corona they did with aids
before we knew aids was only blood borne, there was this politically correct bull sht. dentists who didn't want to treat aids infected were ostracized, I remember. yet we should have quarantined every one of those muther ruckers till more was known.

this is not about politics, it's about safety.
safety of yourself and others.
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fvck football gd

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many other city officials are surprised and upset too.
but look the butt-head and chief just banned hospitals from sending data to the CDC so I guess it's a race for who can care less about people.
I'm no expert on the Georgia State Constitution but I'm guessing it is pretty similar to most state Constitutions and the Federal Constitution.
A governor (executive branch) cannot make law. That is the responsibility of the legislative branch of government.
He can't mandate mask wearing or not mask wearing, anymore than any other governor in any other state can dictate one or the other.
State legislators all over this country are showing how cowardly and unwilling they are to make decisions.
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So, Bill Nye is your expert scientist????
That explains it.
No wonder you are lost.

For the record, Bill Nye is a mechanical engineer with absolutely no medical credentials.
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it's hard; I get it.

people aren't used to being told what to do. my uncle was born in a quarantine camp. you can bet if you had yellow fever you'd be sent there till it was gone.
tb you were sent to a sanatorium even when I was young. I knew people who had been. they were sent away and their families were quarantined for a period of time. their clothes etc were burned.
we know more about tb now and how it is transmitted
people are doing the same thing with corona they did with aids
before we knew aids was only blood borne, there was this politically correct bull sht. dentists who didn't want to treat aids infected were ostracized, I remember. yet we should have quarantined every one of those muther ruckers till more was known.

this is not about politics, it's about safety.
safety of yourself and others.
No, you don't get it. It is about control. What will they ask/order us to do next?

I'm sorry, but I don't wear a mask in public because I AM NOT SICK. I CANNOT SPREAD A VIRUS THAT I DON'T HAVE.

If I do get sick, I will stay home until I am no longer sick. Period.

As for asymptomatic spread, if I were infected but not showing symptoms (coughing, sneezing) how would I spread the virus? I don't lick door knobs or get into anyone else's face. The New England Journal of Medicine even stated that in order to get the virus, you would need to be in close contact with an infected person for at least 15 mins. Just passing someone in the aisle of a store isn't going to spread anything.

If you choose to wear a mask, have at it. I refuse to comply until someone can make a logical, scientific case for doing it.
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So, Bill Nye is your expert scientist????
That explains it.
No wonder you are lost.

For the record, Bill Nye is a mechanical engineer with absolutely no medical credentials.
Yeah, but he's a left winger so those other facts are not relevant.
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There is--and always has been--a natural tension between freedom and safety. The question is not which should prevail, by 100 percent--even an adolescent should know better than that--but, rather, where we make the division.

The Georgia governor, obviously, is tilting toward more freedom, even if it is at the expense of some safety.

Others would prefer that we should have more safety, even if that means a bit less freedom.

But let us understand that the 100 percenters--either way--are in favor of either anarchy or fascism.
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