Political Wrinkles  

Go Back   Political Wrinkles > Political Forums > Local Politics
Register FAQDonate PW Store PW Trivia Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Local Politics Discuss Albuquerque mayor: Hereís a crazy idea, letís give homeless people jobs at the Political Forums; Originally Posted by mr wonder the Albuquerque NM program is not "throwing money" at the problem. but every conservative here ...

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2019, 10:28 PM
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,164
Thanks: 9,750
Thanked 8,061 Times in 4,791 Posts
Default Re: Albuquerque mayor: Hereís a crazy idea, letís give homeless people jobs

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr wonder View Post
the Albuquerque NM program is not "throwing money" at the problem.
but every conservative here attacked it blindly.
WHY?

And Yes we should hold all programs accountable for results. Absolutely.
And learn from the efforts as to what works and what doesn't.
rather than ASSUME that EVERY attempt is by default a complete failure and 100% counter productive..

Cnereed mentions an able bodied family to proud to go on welfare. that's great.
I know a woman that's worked 30+ years at low wage jobs. Never drinks, never took drugs, never smoked. She ran into multiple medical problems. Leaving her unable to drive, unable to walk very far or very long or speak clearly. Since then, from home, she's stuffed envelopes and folded flyers, and worked scammy online jobs from an old computer given her... with arthritis in both hands... to try and make money.. She has no children.

She takes food stamps to help cover her expenses in that area. Relatives, friends and church have helped her on occasion as well.
She's not in a "cycle" she's legitimately in need.
and the gov't program is in fact benefiting her.
Not all people who use them are freeloaders.
Accountability is PERFECT.
But knee-jerk wholesale REJECTION of all gov't assistants programs becasue of problems and bad actors is just cynicism and overkill.
I don't think anyone is wholesale rejecting all government assistance programs. But we're discussing one specific program.
Picking up unemployed homeless people to perform temporary labor is nothing new. Private people have been doing the same as I long as I can remember. But this not a job program that will get people off the street on a permanent basis. At best the program provides $90/week walk around money for the participants.

One jobs program that from personal experience I can vouch for is the salary assistance programs. We generally have one or more in the screen printing business at most times. They don't work out all the time but often they do. The participant is an employee. Subject to the same rules as any other any other employee. Show up on time every day ready for work. The job must get done. The check comes every Friday. You do better, you earn more.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to jimbo For This Useful Post:
  #52 (permalink)  
Old Yesterday, 03:28 PM
Dog Man's Avatar
Down Boy!
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Southern Nevada
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,811
Thanks: 5,116
Thanked 5,680 Times in 3,898 Posts
Default Re: Albuquerque mayor: Hereís a crazy idea, letís give homeless people jobs

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr wonder View Post
the Albuquerque NM program is not "throwing money" at the problem.
but every conservative here attacked it blindly.
WHY?

And Yes we should hold all programs accountable for results. Absolutely.
And learn from the efforts as to what works and what doesn't.
rather than ASSUME that EVERY attempt is by default a complete failure and 100% counter productive..

Cnereed mentions an able bodied family to proud to go on welfare. that's great.
I know a woman that's worked 30+ years at low wage jobs. Never drinks, never took drugs, never smoked. She ran into multiple medical problems. Leaving her unable to drive, unable to walk very far or very long or speak clearly. Since then, from home, she's stuffed envelopes and folded flyers, and worked scammy online jobs from an old computer given her... with arthritis in both hands... to try and make money.. She has no children.

She takes food stamps to help cover her expenses in that area. Relatives, friends and church have helped her on occasion as well.
She's not in a "cycle" she's legitimately in need.
and the gov't program is in fact benefiting her.
Not all people who use them are freeloaders.
Accountability is PERFECT.
But knee-jerk wholesale REJECTION of all gov't assistants programs becasue of problems and bad actors is just cynicism and overkill.
Your friend is the type that NEEDS help. My cousin has a masters degree in journalism, but he is allergic to work ( or something like that ). He de-friended me after he complained that the government didn't do enough to help people that needed help. I told him on face book that there was plenty of money in the coffers to help people, but there were too many educated, able bodied people sucking off the same system. Maybe he took it personal.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Dog Man For This Useful Post:
  #53 (permalink)  
Old Today, 07:04 AM
GetAClue's Avatar
Scholar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Northern Ohio
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,562
Thanks: 6,667
Thanked 4,508 Times in 2,569 Posts
Default Re: Albuquerque mayor: Hereís a crazy idea, letís give homeless people jobs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog Man View Post
Your friend is the type that NEEDS help. My cousin has a masters degree in journalism, but he is allergic to work ( or something like that ). He de-friended me after he complained that the government didn't do enough to help people that needed help. I told him on face book that there was plenty of money in the coffers to help people, but there were too many educated, able bodied people sucking off the same system. Maybe he took it personal.
It would appear that way. Good for you!
__________________
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead - Thomas Paine

A lie doesn't become truth, a wrong doesn't become right, and Evil doesn't become good, just because it is accepted by the majority. - Booker T Washington
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to GetAClue For This Useful Post:
Reply

Tags
albuquerque, crazy, give, hereís, homeless, idea, jobs, letís, mayor, people

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0