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Default Oregon Could Become the First State to Require In-Home Surveillance of Newborn Babies

Talk about Big Brother! Requiring mandatory visits to homes with newborns goes way outside the bounds of government and is a blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment, which states:

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
There is no probable cause for the state to mandate visits to every home with a newborn, yet that is what this proposed bill requires.

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If Oregon Governor Kate Brown has her way, the Beaver State will become the first to require universal home visits for newborn children in the care of their own parents.

Senate Bill 526, introduced this month in the Oregon Legislative Assembly as part of Brown's budget, orders the Oregon Health Authority to "study home visiting by licensed health care providers." Lawmakers went so far as to declare that SB 526 is an "emergency" measure one that requires a resolution by the end of the year. The intro to the bill, the language of which has not yet been crafted, reads:

The Oregon Health Authority shall study home visiting by licensed health care providers in this state. The authority shall submit findings and recommendations for legislation to an interim committee of the Legislative Assembly related to health care not later than December 31, 2019.
Moreover, the 18 sponsors of the bill claim that its passage is "necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health and safety," and therefore "an emergency is declared to exist."

What's the big emergency? Apparently, the state of Oregon is concerned that some parents are raising their children without the watchful eye of Big Brother monitoring their every move a big no-no in the view of the progressive left.
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The Oregon Health Authority shall study home visiting by licensed health care providers in this state. The authority shall submit findings and recommendations for legislation to an interim committee of the Legislative Assembly related to health care
So a whole bunch of healthcare providers paid by the state will "study" this and decide if they need MORE healthcare providers paid by the state...The fix is already in the pudding...
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Sure get more out of a bill than what it actually says.

The bill in committee as written at this moment.

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80th OREGON LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY--2019 Regular Session

Senate Bill 526

Sponsored by Senators STEINER HAYWARD, HANSELL, Representatives SCHOUTEN, STARK; Senators BENTZ,
BURDICK, FREDERICK, GOLDEN, HASS, KNOPP, MANNING JR, RILEY, TAYLOR, WAGNER, Representatives BONHAM, GREENLICK, NOBLE, WILLIAMSON (Presession filed.)

SUMMARY
The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject
to consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor’s brief statement of the essential features of the
measure as introduced.
Directs Oregon Health Authority to study home visiting by licensed health care providers. Requires report to interim committee of Legislative Assembly related to health care.
Sunsets January 2, 2020.
Declares emergency, effective on passage.

A BILL FOR AN ACT

Relating to home visiting; and declaring an emergency.
Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:

SECTION 1. The Oregon Health Authority shall study home visiting by licensed health
care providers in this state. The authority shall submit findings and recommendations for
legislation to an interim committee of the Legislative Assembly related to health care not
later than December 31, 2019.

SECTION 2. Section 1 of this 2019 Act is repealed on January 2, 2020.

SECTION 3. This 2019 Act being necessary for the immediate preservation of the public
peace, health and safety, an emergency is declared to exist, and this 2019 Act takes effect
on its passage.
And it a bi partisan bill as well.

Sponsors (19):
Bill Hansell (R)*, Sheri Schouten (D)*, Duane Stark (R)*, Elizabeth Steiner Hayward (D)*, Cliff Bentz (R), Daniel Bonham (R), Ginny Burdick (D), Shemia Fagan (D), Lew Frederick (D), Jeffrey Golden (D), Mitch Greenlick (D), Mark Hass (D), Tim Knopp (R), James Manning Jr. (D), Ron Noble (R), Chuck Riley (D), Kathleen Taylor (D), Rob Wagner (D), Jennifer Williamson (D)

And it a hell of a stretch to link it to Governor Kate Brown

But then the Beaver Valley Times does not even exist.

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According to the Beaver Valley Times, "When the program is complete, every new parent — this includes adoptions — would receive a series of two or three visits by someone like a nurse or other health care practitioner. The visits could include basic health screenings for babies; hooking parents up with primary care physicians; linking them to other services; and coordinating the myriad childhood immunizations that babies need."
And seriously what does Washington Governor Jay Inslee have to do with it, he has no authority in Oregon, but apparently his tweet is making Oregon Law.

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My budget would also offer universal home visits. This gives every new parent the opportunity to get a visit from a nurse during the first few weeks back home with their newborn to share important information and build confidence. #waleg

12:44 PM - 15 Jan 2019
Seriously does anyone actually bother to verify their news source?

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Seriously does anyone actually bother to verify their news source?
Before I posted it, I checked, and there are many sources about this bill. And from what you posted:

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This 2019 Act being necessary for the immediate preservation of the public
peace, health and safety, an emergency is declared to exist, and this 2019 Act takes effect
on its passage.
This is an overreach by government, declaring an emergency to infringe on a family's right to privacy whenever a baby joins the household. I hope this totalitarian proposal fails.
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Before I posted it, I checked, and there are many sources about this bill. And from what you posted:



This is an overreach by government, declaring an emergency to infringe on a family's right to privacy whenever a baby joins the household. I hope this totalitarian proposal fails.
You do get what the article was saying had nothing to do with the Bill?
You do get that Jay Inslee is the Governor of Washington state and not Oregon?
You do get that Beaver Valley Times does not even exist?
Yet you check it out, that is what your saying right?

All the bill does is order The Oregon Health Authority to do a study. And if you knew how Oregon law worked you would know for something to get enacted in the time frame the Bill sponsors are asking for it had the be declared emergency otherwise a sunset date of January 2, 2020 would be impossible.
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Default Re: Oregon Could Become the First State to Require In-Home Surveillance of Newborn Ba

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Talk about Big Brother! Requiring mandatory visits to homes with newborns goes way outside the bounds of government and is a blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment, which states:



There is no probable cause for the state to mandate visits to every home with a newborn, yet that is what this proposed bill requires.
this is regurgitation of another thread y'all didn't understand because you didn't read the bill.
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