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Old 03-03-2019, 11:44 AM
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This Orwellian bill treats homeschool families like criminals and also requires mandatory vaccinations for homeschooled children.

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A proposed Iowa bill would require that homeschool families allow school and government officials into their homes to conduct health and wellness checks on their children. Introduced by Democrat State Representative Mary Mascher, H.F. 272 would mandate that homeschoolers report in regularly to local public school district officials, or face visits from social-service agents and other government officials.

Reads the text of the bill: “The board of directors of a school district shall conduct quarterly home visits to check on the health and safety of children located within the district who are receiving independent private instruction or private instruction.”

The bill stipulates that such visits “shall take place in the child’s residence with the consent of the parent, guardian, or legal custodian and an interview or observation of the child may be conducted.” For parents who do not consent to such an intrusion, a juvenile or other court “may authorize the person making the home visit to enter the home and interview or observe the child.”

Shane Vander Hart, a contributor to Truth in American Education and blogger at CaffeinatedThoughts.com, noted that H.F. 272 “essentially puts homeschooling families on the level of parents who have been accused or have had a finding of child abuse or neglect.”
This bill doesn't cover how these quarterly visits to every homeschool family in the state will be paid for.

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“Without explaining who is going to pay for it — with school and child protective personnel already stretched beyond the breaking point — [Mascher] wants to command that state agents come into the homes of every single homeschool family in the state four times a year. In what world do we waste money poking into the homes of thousands of people when there is not the slightest reason to believe an individual has done anything wrong? When people who believe that the government can, and should, solve all problems, this is the kind of utopian dream they dream. Dreams like that only get us closer to an Orwellian world.”https://www.thenewamerican.com/cultu...ool-households
Public schoolchildren in Iowa can receive vaccine exemptions, but this bill denies that right to homeschooled children.

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The Vaccine State is now targeting home school families. Many home school families do not follow the CDC’s full vaccine schedule and some families opt out of vaccines altogether. Iowa State Representative Mary Mascher has proposed a piece of legislation that would target them in their homes, to enforce compliance. Iowa’s HF 272 would require home school families to submit proof of their child’s vaccination record to the state, while requiring the families to submit to quarterly “health and wellness” safety checks, which may be conducted by officials from the Health and Human Services Department and accompanied by local law enforcement.

HF 272 is where the Vaccine State takes its most intrusive step to date. On lines 22-24, the bill instructs all home school parents to provide the district with evidence that the child has had the immunizations “required under section 139A.8.” Furthermore, parents would be required to submit a full portfolio of the child’s school work, including an “outline of course of study,” all subjects covered, all lesson plans, and a time log for each area of study. The bill is both intrusive and dishonest. Even parents who send their kids to public school can opt out of one or all vaccines that are recommended by the CDC. Religious and medical exemptions to vaccines still exist in the state.https://explainlife.com/iowa-police-...hoolers-12737/
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I hope the People of Iowa CRUSH this S*(& A55 bill.
and toss the sponsors out.
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On it's face it's a clear violation of due process, and privacy.
NO reason to come but for a fishing expedition.
the cops don't even have that right.

and the traditional idea of the "home as a castle" is pissed on as if it never existed.
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Default Re: Iowa Bill Would Mandate Government Intrusion Into Homeschool Households

maybe in the wake of the 13 kids in cali this might not be such a bad idea

California couple, charged with torture and abuse of most of their 13 children, plead guilty | The Spokesman-Review
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Look, why not just let the cops have camera in EVERYONE'S house. I mean Maybe it's not a bad Idea because... place horrific crime that happened in random home here ...
and it's for the childrennnn!!!


look, saltwn for the gov't to have any right to to come into someone house they must have probable cause or reason to suspect that something is wrong. THEN (unless they hear screams or see blood and violence) they need to get a warrant from a judge.
what youre saying "might not be such a bad idea" is the same thing the red coats were doing to the American colonist and one of the reason the revolution was fought.
Gov't officials walking into peoples homes willynilly to see if they can find something wrong. And you know what, it always happens that if they wanted to find something wrong, they would. funny how that works.

this type of thing (and abortion and euthanasia) are the main reason i think people on the left are dangerous. they LOVE the gov't and often put gov't in place of God. Want gov't to see and control everything people think/do people.... except sexually of course.
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Do you not see the absurdity of comparing the two?

If one were to use your basis, then if one person were to commit a horrible crime, then all others should be investigated for a matching crime?

Geez.....
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This Orwellian bill treats homeschool families like criminals and also requires mandatory vaccinations for homeschooled children.



This bill doesn't cover how these quarterly visits to every homeschool family in the state will be paid for.



Public schoolchildren in Iowa can receive vaccine exemptions, but this bill denies that right to homeschooled children.

I suspect the authors of this bill have the teacher's union's testicles in their mouth. Because it looks like an attempt to make homeschooling much harder and more costlier. Because I am sure the homeschooling parents will be the one having to pay for those visits.
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Default Re: Iowa Bill Would Mandate Government Intrusion Into Homeschool Households

And here's an idea,
maybe Iowa should send social services visiting all the public schools and they can start weeding out all of the physical, sexual and emotional abusive teachers and admins there 1st. Not to mention the unsafe bullying environment set up by the schools that some kids a forced to endure.
while their at it, maybe check in the quality of food and water, the upkeep of the buildings, and other safety factors.
then take the "rights" of public school to see "their" children "unsupervised" until social services thinks they have their act together.

bass akward gov't.
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Do you not see the absurdity of comparing the two?

If one were to use your basis, then if one person were to commit a horrible crime, then all others should be investigated for a matching crime?

Geez.....
your home schooled kids might be fine, but the *******s make the rest of us have to enact laws and rules to cover their shLt.
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