Originally Posted by ShivaTD

This is complete nonsense because laws allowing the premeditated murder of a person (a live baby after birth) are clearly unconstitutional.

Where do Republicans come up with such nonsense?

Originally Posted by WallyWager

I don't really care about his abortion comments because I get they were referring to fetuses that were deformed to where quality of life would be about zero for them upon birth. They weren't offensive, and nobody's arguing for a free-for-all for abortions at any time during the pregnancy. And I personally don't believe the government should force a woman to give birth just so a child can live a few hours in agony then die because "pro-life", especially if giving birth puts the mother at risk of death.

As far as the new explanation, "I didn't do that blackface, but I did a different one.", is about as bad as it gets. Northam's only making it worse for himself, and I believe he mentioned it because that Michael Jackson photo might be out there somewhere.

Originally Posted by saltwn

How you feel right there- that having dialogue with Blacks and Whites about race-is shaming you-that is a great starting point. Would that we were both sitting across the table from two African Americans.

just so I don't leave you in the dark, no this has nothing to do with trying to shame you; this would be a back and forth. you could say how others make you feel or what you assume about their life affecting (or not) your own. And Each person at the table could tell their own feelings and react verbally to each other.

Originally Posted by WallyWager

Now Northam's denying he was either person in the photo, after apologizing for being the one in blackface.

Does anyone believe that?

Originally Posted by saltwn

if you notice trump operatives are spreading all kinds of stuff

lizabeth warren card, kamala fake nudies, also local and state democrats like virginia gov and lt gov
some made up; some inconsequential
dropping 'lil marco' turds all over in preparation for a campaign where trump has nothing on his side
he should be highly critisized
he's on the take
and in putin's toilet

Originally Posted by Jeerleader

The next six years are going to be so much fun.

Originally Posted by saltwn

i HOPE SO

Originally Posted by jimbo

Clearly unconstitutional means nothing to liberals.

Originally Posted by pjohns

I merely quoted your own words.

True, "shame" was not one of those words.

But absent a sense of collective white shame--or white guilt--why do we need a "back and forth"?

Would you suggest a similar "back and forth" between, say, blondes and brunettes? Or between blue-eyed people and brown-eyed people?

Or do you see some sort of (continued) oppression in one that simply does not exist anywhere else?