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Old 08-13-2017, 07:07 AM
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no the protest was set up by the kkk and the white nationalists and all are from out of state; the mayor and gov canceled their permit and asked them to leave after they ran over pedestrians
Bullsh1t

This was a rally of the right. It has nothing to do with white nationalist.

Black people were in attendance, and they were Trump voters as well.


This is all about those left wing idiots who were going to stop the right wing from having an event. Poor babies got hurt...

The left should stay home and leave the right wing to them selves. If they had, we would not have heard anything about it.

Fuq left wing idiots who wish to stop right wing events.

I have no sympathy for any left winger who is harmed or killed. I hate Democrats, and liberals, because they hate me. There said it for all of you to see.

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I wonder what it is like to live in the conservative reality.
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The Left couldn't have asked for a better gift...

The ONE instance of Rightwing idiots now nullifies the HUNDREDS of instances of Leftwing idiots that have rioted and they've never had to denounce...or even pretend it exists...
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People who call themselves Republicans should go out of their way to denounce this kind of activity. It almost always leads to violence.
People who call them selves Democrats should just stay away from Republican gatherings so that no one gets hurt. Violence is what Democrats want.

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Granny says dey oughta hang him from a yardarm...

Charlottesville: Who is suspect James Alex Fields Jr?
Mon, 14 Aug 2017 - A picture is emerging of James Alex Fields Jnr, a 20-year-old with alleged neo-Nazi links.
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James Alex Fields Jnr, who is 20 years old and originally from Kentucky, was arrested and charged after a car was deliberately driven into a crowd of anti-fascism protesters. His mother told local media that he did not openly express extreme views. But evidence is emerging of a "very misguided and disillusioned" young man. Mr Fields' former teacher characterised him as such to the Cinnicinati Tribune, and said his high school research made it clear he had beliefs that were "very much along the lines of the neo-Nazi movement". "A lot of boys get interested in the Germans and Nazis because they're interested in World War II. But James took it to another level."


James Alex Fields Jr. pictured at "Unite the right" rally before the car attack. Standing in a white polo shirt.

After enlisting in the military, Mr Fields was released in December 2015 for "failing to make training standards". Buzzfeed reports that a now deleted Facebook account appearing to belong to him had overt references to Nazism and a "Make America Great again" banner. It also had a photograph of the 20-year-old posing with a car resembling the one used in the attack and a variety of memes popular with the alt-right, including Pepe the Frog. Buzzfeed also posted Youtube footage appearing to show Mr Fields chanting homophobic slurs at counter-protesters at the "Unite the Right" rally hours before the attack. He was pictured at the event (second from left) carrying a shield with the logo of an openly fascist group: Vanguard America.


James Fields is pictured holding up a homemade shield with a logo of the Vanguard America group

The group's website declares "America is under attack" and says: "If current trends continue, White Americans will be a minority in the nation they built. It's time to take a stand." They released a statement on Twitter denying James Fields had been a member. He has been charged with one count of second degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding and one count of failing to stop after a hit and run. Republican senator Ted Cruz called on the Department of Justice to prosecute the suspect for domestic terrorism. The FBI confirmed they had opened a civil rights investigation into the incident.

Charlottesville: Who is suspect James Alex Fields Jr? - BBC News
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Charlottesville car-ram suspect James Alex Fields denied bail
Mon, 14 Aug 2017 - A 20-year-old man accused of killing a woman in Charlottesville car-ramming incident is denied bail.
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A 20-year-old man accused of ramming his car into a crowd of protesters at a white nationalist rally in Virginia has appeared in court via video from jail. James Alex Fields was denied bail as he was arraigned for second-degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding and one count of hit and run. Heather Heyer, 32, died and 19 were injured when a car hit demonstrators in Charlottesville on Saturday. Mr Fields is said to have harboured Nazi sympathies.

President Donald Trump has been criticised for not specifically denouncing the far-right elements in the weekend's march. But the White House has defended his remarks as explicitly condemning the white supremacy groups involved. Ken Frazier, CEO of drugs giant Merck, announced on Monday he would resign from the president's American Manufacturing Council over Mr Trump's response to Charlottesville. Mr Frazier, who is African American, tweeted he had "a responsibility to take a stand against intolerance and extremism".

In court - Joel Gunter, BBC News, Charlottesville

James Alex Fields looked nervous and listless on the small monitor in the corner of the courtroom. Mostly he kept his head down, his eyes darting occasionally up towards the camera. He was wearing a striped jumpsuit and had the neat, buzzcut hairstyle favoured by many white supremacists and neo-nazis who have united under the banner of the so-called "alt-right". Judge Robert Downer read his charges - one count of murder, one count of hit and run, three counts of malicious wounding. Alex Fields spoke briefly to say he was employed by Securitas and Omni Ohio, could not afford a lawyer, and had no ties to Charlottesville. Judge Downer denied him bail, and revealed he could not be appointed a public defender because someone in the public defender's office was directly affected by the crime. His appointed lawyer, Charles Webster, named in court by the judge, had yet to be contacted to inform him of his latest client.

In 10 minutes it was over. Outside the court, known white nationalist Matthew Heimbach was shouting that the death of Heather Heyer was the fault of the police. "Nazis go home," the crowd chanted back at him. "I think I like it in Charlottesville," he said. "I think I'll stay." Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Monday said the deadly violence met "the definition of domestic terrorism", adding that the Justice Department was opening a civil rights investigation against into the event. "You can be sure we will charge and advance the investigation towards the most serious charges that can be brought because this is unequivocally an unacceptable evil attack," he said on ABC News' Good Morning America. He told the television programme that FBI agents from the terrorism and civil rights divisions were also investigating the matter.

Charlottesville car-ram suspect James Alex Fields denied bail - BBC News
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Charlottesville white nationalist marchers face backlash
Mon, 14 Aug 2017 - Online campaigners call for white nationalists to be fired from jobs and expelled from colleges.
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Far-right white nationalists who attended rallies this weekend in Charlottesville, Virginia, did not cover their faces as they marched around with lit torches, chanting slogans like "you will not replace us". But they are now facing an online backlash, as Twitter users identify and denounce them. Calls have been made to have them kicked out of universities and sacked from their jobs. Cole White, one of those who attended the rally has now reportedly been fired by his employer - the Top Dog hotdog restaurant chain in Berkeley, California. The sacking came after he was identified by Yes, You're Racist, a Twitter user who has been publicly naming and shaming those who attended the rally under the hashtag #ExposetheAltRight.


White nationalists carry torches on the grounds of the University of Virginia, on the eve of a planned Unite The Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia

Meanwhile, Peter Cvjetanovic, a 20-year-old student who was captured in one of the most widely shared photos, has defended his right to attend the "Unite the Right" rally, which centred around opposition to the removal of a statue of Civil War General Robert E Lee. The rally descended into violent street brawls between white supremacists and counter-protesters. One woman was killed when a car drove into a crowd of counter-protesters, and US President Donald Trump has come under criticism for failing to explicitly condemn white extremist groups, including neo-Nazis. Mr Cvjetanovic, who was also identified by Yes, You're Racist on Twitter, told local Nevada TV station KTVN Channel 2 that he understood an image of him that spread widely "has a very negative connotation". He added: "But I hope that the people sharing the photo are willing to listen that I'm not the angry racist they see in that photo."


Peter Cvjetanovic seen yelling and holding a torch after marching through the University of Virginia campus

The self-described white nationalist said he attended the march to send a message that "white European culture has a right to be here just like every other culture". People like him, he said, "just want to preserve what we have". He says he has received death threats. Soon after he was identified on Twitter, a photo surfaced appearing to show him with Dean Heller, a Republican Senator from Nevada, alongside other students. Mr Heller then distanced himself from the controversy. Mr Cvjetanovic is an undergraduate student at the University of Nevada, Reno, which is now facing calls to expel him. A petition has gathered 6,500 signatures. The university has released a statement, which did not name him, but said "racism and white supremacist movements have a corrosive effect on our society". It noted, however, that the university respects the peaceful exchange of different views and civil debate.


Vigils and marches were held on Sunday in different US cities

The calls to have the white nationalist protesters - many of whom were young men - punished for their role in the rally is likely to add fuel to debates about free speech, especially on university campuses. Mr Cvjetanovic says that if the university expels him it would be a "clear violation" of his first amendment rights. Washington State University is also under pressure from some students after it was revealed its college Republican president had attended the rally. University president Kirk Shulz tweeted: "Universities are places where controversial voices must be heard - even those voices that many in our community disagree with."

The fall-out from the events in Charlottesville has also seen web hosting company GoDaddy expel neo-Nazi website the Daily Stormer, after it ran an article denigrating Heather Heyer, the woman who was killed on Saturday. In a related development, a post on the Daily Stormer front page claims the website has been hacked by Anonymous "in the name of Heather Heyer a victim of white supremacist terrorism". However, a major Twitter feed for Anonymous distanced itself from the hack - saying it might be a hoax. Meanwhile, a brand of "tiki torches" has distanced itself from marchers who wielded the outdoor lamps. "We do not support their message or the use of our products in this way," TIKI Brand said in a Facebook post.

Charlottesville white nationalist marchers face backlash - BBC News
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no the protest was set up by the kkk and the white nationalists and all are from out of state; the mayor and gov canceled their permit and asked them to leave after they ran over pedestrians
"They" I thought it was one guy, did more than one guy run over people?

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the changes were made law months ago
an alt right blogger got the protest going and most of the are kkk and white nationalist
yes conservatism under the popular model today is increasingly represented by this sort of thing

Only in the mind of the loony left.


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Some of us wish we had a potus who had shown a willingness to trash this white supremacy
What a total CROCK! Whatever Trump said you would have said the above, can anyone say, partisan shill?

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he said “We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Let’s come together as one!”
and later
“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides.”

That is about as generic a pass as you can give.
When a muslim or person of color does something he calls em out.
1. Bullshlt!
One could conceivably say that Barack gave a 'pass' to Michael Brown for robbing that store and attacking that cop couldn't they?

2. Please prove to me that Trump has called out 'a person of color'.
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I didn't look at anything political all weekend but from what I've heard today,

1. Both sides came in body armor, knee pads, etc. etc. looking for a fight.

2. All because of some statues, how insane is that
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And I don't remember little Barack saying diddly squat about all the people that were violently attacked for the so-called crime of attending a Trump rally, do you?

All you lefties have is, "All conservatives are racist" bull.
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And I don't remember little Barack saying diddly squat about all the people that were violently attacked for the so-called crime of attending a Trump rally, do you?

All you lefties have is, "All conservatives are racist" bull.
You don't remember it because the right wing media you use is a giant ass bubble that controls your intelligence

President Obama Denounces Violence at Trump Rallies

President Obama denounced both the "vulgar and divisive" rhetoric coming from the campaign trail and the outright violence that's occurred at rallies for presidential candidate Donald Trump during a luncheon at the U.S. Capitol on Tuesday.

"I know that I'm not only one in this room who may be more than a little dismayed about what's happening on the campaign trail lately," Obama said. "We have heard vulgar and divisive rhetoric aimed at women and minorities. And Americans who don't look like us or pray like us or vote like we do."

The president did not refer to any particular candidate specifically, but the statements come just days after violence erupted on the streets of his hometown of Chicago as protestors and attendees clashed outside of a Donald Trump rally. Trump has been accused of inciting violence; on many occasions he has said he would like to punch or "rough up" some of the protestors at his rallies or promised to pay the legal fees of those who do. Trump, however, not only denies that he's encouraging the disruptions, he denies there's any violence at all.

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