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This happened right up the highway, between me and my sister in law's place. :

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COUNCIL, Idaho (AP) — A crash between a car and a bull near a tiny Idaho town turned into a bizarre tragedy when an armed rancher confronted Idaho deputies planning to shoot the animal that was charged rescuers, leading to a gunbattle that left the well-known businessman dead, authorities said Monday.

A Subaru station wagon struck a bull on a highway Sunday just north of Council, a town of roughly 800 people, and Adams County sheriff's deputies responded to the crash. The injured bull began charging emergency responders as they worked to get the driver and passenger out of the car, said Idaho State Police, the agency that is investigating the shooting.

"The bull was very agitated and was aggressive to emergency services, as well as the other cars coming up and down the highway," Adams County Sheriff Ryan Zollman said.

Jack Yantis, the bull's owner, arrived with a rifle just as deputies decided to put down the animal. There was an altercation, and Yantis and two deputies all fired their weapons, State Police said in a statement.

Yantis died at the scene, and one deputy suffered a minor injury. The bull also was shot and killed.
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Both deputies, whose names have not been released, were placed on paid leave.

"To the best of my knowledge, this is the first officer-involved shooting that Adams County has ever had," Zollman said. "This is going to be a big hit to this community. The gentleman involved, Mr. Yantis, was a well-known cattle rancher around here. It's just a sad deal for everybody involved, for the whole community."

Both people inside the Subaru were taken to a local hospital by air ambulance. Their conditions and names were not known Monday.
Also sad to report as one commenter from the area said, Yantis' wife suffered a heart attack when she got the news.
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Having had experience with just this sort of thing, I think the LEO's are in some very hot water here...

If the bull was not injured enough to be frisky with the LEO's they should have left him alone.. My bet is they did not. My bet is the decided he was too close for their comfort, and they decided to try and drive him away, and it back fired badly...

The owner came with a rife, just in case he had to put his prized and yes expensive range bull down..

But the dumb fuq's had or were in the process of doing in the bull, before the owner could see him, or worse the owner had determined there was not a reason for putting the bull down, except these prissy boys in uniforms were "scared" of the bull...

I hope this made it on the dash cams.. If these deputies are murder's and get away with it there will be hell to pay in this small town...

LEO's need to LISTEN to civilians, and some times be willing to fallow THEIR orders. Especially in a situation in the country side and involving live stock. Most of the young ones are on a testosterone high with a gun and a badge. They have no concept that they could be wrong...

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Having had experience with just this sort of thing, I think the LEO's are in some very hot water here...

If the bull was not injured enough to be frisky with the LEO's they should have left him alone.. My bet is they did not. My bet is the decided he was too close for their comfort, and they decided to try and drive him away, and it back fired badly...

The owner came with a rife, just in case he had to put his prized and yes expensive range bull down..

That's kind of what me and my husband surmised.
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But the dumb fuq's had or were in the process of doing in the bull, before the owner could see him, or worse the owner had determined there was not a reason for putting the bull down, except these prissy boys in uniforms were "scared" of the bull...

I hope this made it on the dash cams.. If these deputies are murder's and get away with it there will be hell to pay in this small town...

LEO's need to LISTEN to civilians, and some times be willing to fallow THEIR orders. Especially in a situation in the country side and involving live stock. Most of the young ones are on a testosterone high with a gun and a badge. They have no concept that they could be wrong...

Regards, Kirk
I don't know but with the two on leave they had to call in the Highway Patrol to fill in -small community. I doubt they can afford dash cams and they just put a couple of tax payers out of commission.
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If we are correct, they should be tried for murder and found guilty.

And, made an example of so others don't make this mistake..

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If we are correct, they should be tried for murder and found guilty.

And, made an example of so others don't make this mistake..

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We'll see after the state police investigation. It is a sad thing for the family and the community (800) but everyone up and down the river here has relatives or friends their. So we will be anxious to hear what's what. I hope the Statesman paper gets their butt in gear and follows up.
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That is a tragic story for everyone involved.....
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On the plus side, dinner is served...
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That's kind of what me and my husband surmised.

I don't know but with the two on leave they had to call in the Highway Patrol to fill in -small community. I doubt they can afford dash cams and they just put a couple of tax payers out of commission.
I think dash cams (and inevitably body cams) for police are a must.

Considering this situation, there will undoubtedly be a lawsuit.
If the police officers were justified, the cameras would save them a LOT in attorney and court costs as it would cut down on the arguing of who did what.
If the police officers were not justified, then the cameras would help show that quickly too and an out of court settlement could be quickly determined.

Obviously that's simplistic. But there would be many ways they would eliminate the b.s. out of a situation each years.
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