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Old 03-13-2013, 09:49 PM
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Default Gunman Kills 4 in Upstate New York; Police Search for Killer

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The first sign of trouble was a fire, which sent acrid smoke billowing above the village of Mohawk in upstate New York shortly after 9 a.m. on Wednesday.
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As firefighters made their way to battle the blaze, the police said, the man who set the fire made his way to a barbershop in the heart of the village and shot four people with a shotgun, killing two customers and critically wounding two others.

He then drove a mile to a carwash in neighboring Herkimer and shot and killed two more people, the police said, before fleeing and setting off a manhunt.

The police discovered the suspect’s car near a building on Main Street here around 1 p.m., but as they converged on the site, the suspect opened fire, sending officers diving for cover and setting the stage for a tense standoff that remained unresolved as of early evening.

Businesses were evacuated, schools placed on lockdown and, as heavily armed officers positioned themselves near the building — weapons drawn — the police said they were engaged in a “methodical” search for the suspect in and around the building and the surrounding area.
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At 9 p.m., a spokesman for the Herkimer police said the suspect was still believed to be barricaded in the building on Main Street.

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, accompanied by the State Police superintendent, Joseph D’Amico, rushed to Herkimer, arriving shortly after the police were fired upon and spent several hours with the authorities near the site of the standoff.

“This is truly an inexplicable situation,” Mr. Cuomo said in a news conference. “There was no apparent rational motive to the best of our knowledge.”

The suspect was identified as Kurt Myers, 64, a Mohawk resident who had only one previous arrest, for drunken driving in 1973, the authorities said.

The State Police identified the dead at the barbershop as Harry M. Montgomery, 68, and Michael G. Rancier, 57, and at the carwash as Thomas Stefka and Michael L. Renshaw, whose ages were not immediately available.
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As the sun faded over the Mohawk Valley, law enforcement officers with K9 units continued to search buildings in the area as an armored vehicle was brought to the scene, and officials from the Department of Homeland Security and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives joined state and local law enforcement officials.

While officials said they evacuated most of those in the area, some residents remained trapped in their apartments.

Pat Roberts, 47, said his girlfriend, Christina Bruce, 27, was hiding in her apartment on Main Street with her 4-year-old boy, unable to leave and with little idea of what was happening outside. “She is nervous and scared,” he said.

The police released a photo of Mr. Myers, who was seen frequently around town. Neighbors said he usually kept to himself and often acted strangely when he did interact with others.
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We are hearing about these situations more and more often...

What is it that is stimulating this?

It's horrifying and frustrating.
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We are hearing about these situations more and more often...

What is it that is stimulating this?

It's horrifying and frustrating.
No news is good news?
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society is broken?
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Perhaps an overly intrusive government trying to run people's lives and dictate their every move? We are becoming a nation overwhelmed with laws and agencies to enforce them.
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Perhaps an overly intrusive government trying to run people's lives and dictate their every move? We are becoming a nation overwhelmed with laws and agencies to enforce them.
I don't feel an intrusion.
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Perhaps an overly intrusive government trying to run people's lives and dictate their every move? We are becoming a nation overwhelmed with laws and agencies to enforce them.
The only time I ever felt like that was when I was speeding past a cop...

...it really isn't instrusive regardless of all the stupid rules it has.
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Somehow, I suspect that this is the Republicans fault...
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Somehow, I suspect that this is the Republicans fault...
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We are hearing about these situations more and more often...

What is it that is stimulating this?

It's horrifying and frustrating.
They aren't happening more often. We're only hearing about them more now.
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