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Republicans in Missouri have voted to overturn the veto of Democratic Governor Jay Nixon that will now legally allow "religious" and "moral" exemptions in health insurance policies. Democrats are calling it an assault on women, and Republicans say it allows people to not be forced to deny their faith.

What is at issue, however, is not the faith of those who don't believe in contraception but rather how the religious beliefs of legislators will now be forced on citizens of Missouri. The Republican battle cry is that of religious freedom, but they seem to forget about the religious freedom guaranteed to all citizens, and that freedom includes protecting citizens from religious zealots.

The veto vote went completely down party lines, passing the Missouri House 109 - 45. 109 votes is the minimum amount needed to overturn a veto. The Senate also approved the measure 26 - 6.
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Many Democratic lawmakers believe this move by Republicans will cost the state in the long run, and will make Missouri vulnerable to the now inevitable lawsuits where citizens will sue based upon being discriminated for religious reasons.Republicans vote to ban contraception in Missouri for religious reasons - Detroit liberal | Examiner.com

StLToday.com locally reported on the press conference held by Democrats who were uniformly disgusted. Representative Jill Schupp said:

"To make a woman pay for birth control on top of premium payments has real economic consequences.That’s the equivalent of five weeks of basic groceries for a family of four, or 14 tanks of gas in the minivan or four hours of tuition at a community college. For a family living paycheck-to-paycheck, imagine the impact as they might have to make a choice between birth control and groceries."
The Church of the United States? I think not.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:26 PM
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Good for them!

You find a right to having me pay to protect people from their loose sexual practices in the Constitution, than get back to me, OK?

High time for this sort of thinking, and past!

Let's have more.
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Good for them!

You find a right to having me pay to protect people from their loose sexual practices in the Constitution, than get back to me, OK?

High time for this sort of thinking, and past!

Let's have more.
loose sexual practices like being married and having the good sense to wait a bit to have kids? You don't pay anything- I don't know how you dreamed that one up.
The person pays twice. Once in premium and once a month in prescriptions not covered.

If the church is going to dictate politics I say high time they were taxed.
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That's not a ban on contraception.
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loose sexual practices like being married and having the good sense to wait a bit to have kids? You don't pay anything- I don't know how you dreamed that one up.
The person pays twice. Once in premium and once a month in prescriptions not covered.

If the church is going to dictate politics I say high time they were taxed.
All insurance and public health schemes are paid for by groups.

Didn't you know?

I see no reason to be required to pay for somebody else's birth control at any level, state, federal, or private unless I enter into such a contract voluntarily.

And even with all that aside, it is a silly thing to be asking other people to pay for anyway.

Oh, but Leftists don't believe that anything is a silly thing to ask the Productive to buy for the Clueless could ever be silly, now do they?
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All insurance and public health schemes are paid for by groups.

Didn't you know?

I see no reason to be required to pay for somebody else's birth control at any level, state, federal, or private unless I enter into such a contract voluntarily.

And even with all that aside, it is a silly thing to be asking other people to pay for anyway.

Oh, but Leftists don't believe that anything is a silly thing to ask the Productive to buy for the Clueless could ever be silly, now do they?
again your delusions spill out. you do not contribute nor do I. The group gets a rate that is (supposedly) affordable. the fact they are a group makes that possible, not tax payers.
so with that fact under your belt, I'll bet you change your mind. now you are outraged that someone would dictate health care based upon religion.
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All insurance and public health schemes are paid for by groups.

Didn't you know?

I see no reason to be required to pay for somebody else's birth control at any level, state, federal, or private unless I enter into such a contract voluntarily.

And even with all that aside, it is a silly thing to be asking other people to pay for anyway.

Oh, but Leftists don't believe that anything is a silly thing to ask the Productive to buy for the Clueless could ever be silly, now do they?
Then don't buy a 'group' policy.
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The Church of the United States? I think not.
What a stupid article. The law in question is in no way a ban contraception, it'a allowing orgs. to choose if they don't want to fund something that violates their standards. The fact that you bought into this load of crap says a lot about YOU, salty, not the MO Reps. You are so willing to beleive anything negative about Reps. that you won't even make the least bit of effort to maintain any level of intellectual integrity.
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What a stupid article. The law in question is in no way a ban contraception, it'a allowing orgs. to choose if they don't want to fund something that violates their standards. The fact that you bought into this load of crap says a lot about YOU, salty, not the MO Reps. You are so willing to beleive anything negative about Reps. that you won't even make the least bit of effort to maintain any level of intellectual integrity.
they dont fund it the client does and pays extra for a routine prescription.
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You two don't have a clue where money comes from do you?
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