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CJOnline / The Topeka Capital-Journal - Surveillance video focus in homicide

Surveillance video focus in homicide
By Maria Sudekum Fisher
The Associated Press
Published Thursday, April 10, 2008
OLATHE — An initial review of a surveillance video from the store parking lot where an 18-year-old woman was last seen didn't appear to show her being abducted, a police officer testified during a pretrial hearing on evidence in the case.

Sgt. James Sutterby, of the Overland Park Police Department, said Wednesday that when he first watched the video of 18-year-old Kelsey Smith at the Target store and in the parking lot, it looked as if she drove off alone.

"It appeared that she was putting what she had in her hand in the passenger side, then she walked around to the driver's side of the vehicle and the vehicle leaves the parking lot," Sutterby said.

But he said after the footage was enhanced by a media specialist at the Overland Park Fire Department, it became apparent that Smith was accosted at her car.

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As I've said in another thread recently, parking lots should be the security responsibility of (at least) the major store in a mall...if not all of the mall stores...
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I'm not knocking them just posting the local news which is saying Topeka for it size (pop. 140,000) is moving along quickly. I fear no Big Brotthe ror anyone else. I am always following the law. But it is news worth noting if to be compared with the other cities around the nation. Which is th ehope of this thread. Others placing their news (I would love them to fimd news that reflects either political parties involvement in any fashion) and post it here or at Political Fever where I started the same kind of thread a bit before here.

NMow I wanted to show both sides of the opinions on the hearings on Iraq, but the on line paper didn't have this much so I scannned in today yesterdays paper.
Note the GOP party line of our 2 out of touch Repukes. And both have been in power way to long. Time to vote them out.



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I'm not knocking them just posting the local news which is saying Topeka for it size (pop. 140,000) is moving along quickly. I fear no Big Brotthe ror anyone else. I am always following the law. But it is news worth noting if to be compared with the other cities around the nation. Which is th ehope of this thread. Others placing their news (I would love them to fimd news that reflects either political parties involvement in any fashion) and post it here or at Political Fever where I started the same kind of thread a bit before here.

NMow I wanted to show both sides of the opinions on the hearings on Iraq, but the on line paper didn't have this much so I scannned in today yesterdays paper.
Note the GOP party line of our 2 out of touch Repukes. And both have been in power way to long. Time to vote them out.
All I see is a politician making military decisions when it should be the military that does so...
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This covers the ongoing battle by the city council and city manager over their desire to have a police chopper unit. When paid consultant's (and the newer city way of operating has hired quite a few) and never follow the advise. Our streets pot holed everywhere our parks need help so the city council provided a new baseball diamond and club house over peoples protests. And if this unit was gone we would have 5 slots for more police officers who provide 24/7 watch and protection. The spare chopper crashed last week. As the main one a little over a year ago killing one pilot. Politic want and want at all levels of our govt. and just don't use their heads or listen to the people.
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Judge gives Hecht power to subpoena Bonaparte
With limits, D.A. can subpoena in possible run-up to officials' ouster
By Tim Hrenchir
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Published Friday, April 11, 2008
A Shawnee County district judge has ruled District Attorney Robert Hecht may use subpoena power to question city manager Norton Bonaparte and three other city employees — but only to determine if grounds exist for the ouster of public officials.

In a ruling issued Wednesday, Judge Larry Hendricks prohibited Hecht from using information gathered in any depositions of Bonaparte and the three other employees as part of a civil suit Hecht is pursuing over the city's potential purchase of a police helicopter.

"The plaintiff is admonished that no information in any fashion, no matter how significant or insignificant, will be allowed as evidence in the current action," Hendricks wrote. (( WHAT?))

He referred to a lawsuit Hecht filed Feb. 29 to void the city council's 5-3 vote on Dec. 4 to approve the purchase of a police helicopter. Hecht contends the transaction was illegal because Mayor Bill Bunten was denied his legal rights to vote on the purchase and veto it.

Hecht sought on March 4 to use his subpoena power to ask questions during depositions of Bonaparte, city council office employees Ginny Burghart and Keya Downing, and city manager's office employee Marcia Steinbock.

Tom Haney, an attorney representing the city, subsequently filed a motion seeking to quash the subpoenas. The city argued that Hecht, in gathering information for his suit, should be required to follow the discovery process, which allows both sides to question a witness and a court record to be created.

Hecht filed a response March 24, asking that Haney's motion be overruled and denied.

Hecht said Haney's motion was flawed because Haney reached an erroneous conclusion as to what Hecht was seeking to investigate through his subpoenas. Hecht said they were targeted at finding out whether council members who approved the helicopter purchase knowingly violated the Kansas cash basis law, which could make them subject to misdemeanor prosecution and removal from office.

In Wednesday's ruling, Hendricks wrote that it would be "inherently unfair" to allow Hecht to issue subpoenas and use his inquisitional authority after he had filed a civil action. ((WHAT? IF HE FINDS PROOF HE CAN'T USE IT? HOW STUPID AND UNFAIR, BUT IF I CHECK THE BACKGROUND AS I WILL I WILL FIND THE GOP CONNECTION))

Hendricks indicated state law would allow a county attorney inquisitional power only when investigating potential grounds for the ouster of a public official.

He concluded Hecht has the legal authority to subpoena Bonaparte, Burghart, Downing and Steinbock to look into whether grounds for a separate case involving ouster proceedings exist over possible violations of the cash basis law.

Interim city attorney Braxton Copley recently suggested the council reauthorize its purchases of the helicopter and an enterprise resource planning software system because the documents involved failed to meet requirements of the cash basis law. (( SEE THEY LOSE ONE WAY SO TRY ANOTHER))

While council members last week voted 5-4 to approve resolutions reauthorizing both purchases, the council currently appears to be short of mustering the seven votes necessary to override Mayor Bill Bunten's veto Friday of both measures.

Hecht said Thursday he planned to reissue subpoenas to Bonaparte and the three other city employees and allow for them to be deposed.

Hecht said he interpreted Wednesday's ruling as saying the district attorney's office was legally entitled to issue the subpoenas and Hendricks has no authority or jurisdiction to grant the city's motion to quash them because they aren't part of the case before him.

Hecht said he filed a motion Thursday seeking to alter that portion of Hendricks' ruling that would prohibit using information gathered during the subpoena process in his civil case. Hecht said he pointed out in Thursday's motion that the city's motion to quash the subpoenas didn't raise the admissibility of the evidence in the case.

No one in the city's legal department was available for comment. (( BECAUSE HECHT IS RIGHT AND THESE CLOWNS HAVE AGAIN WASTED CITY MONEY AND BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO LOOK INTO OTHER PC SOFTWARE IT COST THE CITY EACH DAY $ and the last quote given was $187,000 so far!))

Tim Hrenchir can be reached at (785) 295-1184 or tim.hrenchir@cjonline.com.

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Posted by: kappasig1209 at Apr 11, 2008 at 08:33:13 AM
How much are we paying for this?

Posted by: bob421 at Apr 11, 2008 at 08:39:22 AM
This is one tax payers bill I won't worry about, as long as Hecht cleans house and gets rid of this crappy city council!!!!!

-2 Rating Posted by: kencon at Apr 11, 2008 at 09:49:25 AM
It is really sad {People} have to use things like this to tr to make political {points} to get elected. The price of the helicopter will be wrapped up in fees soon and nothing gained. Get the CHOPPER, get it flying and let the opposiion GET A LIFE!

Posted by: KLorenz at Apr 11, 2008 at 10:31:07 AM
I have a life. If the helicopter(s) equipped with FLIR are patrolling the night skies over Topeka for 10-14 hrs/day they would be worth the expenditure. If multiple patrol units were actively circulating throughout their respective areas providing a deterring presence 24/7 it would be worth even further expenditure.
Unfortunately, at present this is not the case. I'd rather law enforcement prevent crimes by providing a presence than WAIT for them to happen (on tarmacs OR in parking lots)equipped with the exorbitant tools of apprehension.

Posted by: paladin2all at Apr 11, 2008 at 11:08:06 AM
Glad to hear this go Hecht. Clean house, have felt that a good old boys club has been created and that the needs of this groip are being met. Not the needs of a city. I have to agree with above comments. More equipment doesn't keep you safe. The equipment can't operate itself. It has always taken Officers doing their jobs and more officers with better pay would be the right way to go.

Posted by: T-TownTracker at Apr 11, 2008 at 11:30:26 AM
KenCon, I know that noisy helicopter has been institutionalized in Topeka, but that doesn't make it necessary. FLIR is unnecessary in a city full of lights and when you have the K-9 unit. I have invited anyone who reads CJOnline to provide to us helicopter opponents any statistics or other data that support a helicopter program. I'm still waiting.

Posted by: T-TownTracker at Apr 11, 2008 at 11:39:22 AM
Here, I'll go proactive on the stats. Here's a link to comparision between Topeka, Kansas and Lincoln, NE. Lincoln is kinda like Topeka and Lawrence put together. It's a capital and a major college town of 225,000. They don't have a police helicopter. Crime Rate Comparison: Lincoln Vs. Topeka

Posted by: jamey at Apr 11, 2008 at 12:05:00 PM
Are we forgetting what just took place a couple of days ago...HELLO!!! ANOTHER Topeka Police helicopter went down. This time, fortunately no one was killed, but now would be a good time to wake up and finally scrap the whole unit once and for all.

Posted by: yardman at Apr 11, 2008 at 03:45:14 PM
Recall Blackburn, Preisner, Swank, Woelfel, and Kennedy.
And keep the fish eye on Bonaparte, as he is not getting our streets repaired. Is he not The City Manager?

Posted by: jswift at Apr 11, 2008 at 04:11:48 PM
I'm waiting for the city to put together a cost/benefit study of the helicopter unit. There are emotional points to be made on either side, but the primary concern the city government should have is whether the cost is justified by quantifiable results; and whether or not there are more cost effective ways to achieve similar results.

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All I see is a politician making military decisions when it should be the military that does so...
And that is the major point of the entire thread to show that each political party has state and even city control. Glad you got it. And one has to consider the committees these elected offical are on. And if the military had it's way we would be in Iraq, N. Korea and Russia if not several S. American countries already. That is why they are told by civilians and answer to civilians!

At Political Fever more people are getting involved and posting like type news from their local news, and it show what my idea of the thread would produce if others got involved.
If anyone wants it closed, go ahead. "Means Nothing to me". One less place to post the same news. And besides it hasn't drawn any thing but readers.

Take that into considerration as it might just draw in others to post later than sooner. but it is up to the forum managers.
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Here let the reader pick the local news from any of the 4 local news outlets. Note CJ On line is our daily news paper. 2nd down. The other 3 are local TV stations but the first one is much like the newpaper. They should update daily as each is the home page. I will check back if anyone replies other wise this is it for the thread at Political wrinkles

WIBW - HomePage wibw kansas news leader, kansas weather, kansas sports, breaking news, and video from topeka, lawrence, manhatten, emporia, salina, and junction city Much like the daily news paper.

CJOnline The daily news paper

KTKA 49 News Topeka - KTKA.com

KSN.com - News, Weather, Sports - NBC - Wichita - Great Bend - Garden City - McCook - Kansas
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CJOnline - WIBW - HomePage wibw kansas news leader, kansas weather, kansas sports, breaking news, and video from topeka, lawrence, manhatten, emporia, salina, and junction city - KSN.com - News, Weather, Sports - NBC - Wichita - Great Bend - Garden City - McCook - Kansas

It seems that this is happening here in Topeka, if you read FREE LUNCH by Mr. Johnston you would understand my point. So this one story I will follow and post more on when it arises.

The project is based upon 5,200 out of about 115.000 house holds who pay their water bills. Some balance The drawing is at the site and has no parking lots. Hummmm makes me wonder. Interment Domain might solve that issue.

Well here is part of the story: Is stuff like this happening in your area?

City takes swing at stadium
By Mike Hall
The Capital-Journal
Published Saturday, April 12, 2008
Although little is known about a proposed minor league baseball stadium for Topeka — such as where it might be built — planning is moving forward.

Local governmental officials and community leaders Friday morning unveiled drawings of what a stadium might look like. Consultants put the design together based on community forums and a survey of what Topekans would like to see in such a facility.

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This is an artist's rendering of what a stadium in Topeka could look like. Initial ideas foresee seating for 2,500 people. A big unknown is where the stadium would be located. Community involvement is being sought.
GETTING INVOLVED

To sign up to work on one of the six committees associated with the proposed minor league baseball stadium in Topeka, call Monique Glaudé at (785) 368-4470 or e-mail her at mglaude@topeka.org.
Although no site was being recommended, speakers indicated a downtown location would have a number of advantages and fit in with what the public wants.

Deputy city manager Randy Speaker said the survey was conducted through the city's Web site and with a form distributed to Topekans with their water bills.

The fact that more than 5,200 people filled out the survey form was a sign of the enthusiasm for the project, Speaker said. It is a much greater response than the city has received to past surveys.

Some of the answers on the survey are providing momentum for the project, too. Sixty-five percent of respondents said they would attend a game.

The tentative design was described by Bob Carlson, principal of DLR Group, which has designed more than 20 stadiums around the country, and Doug Stewart, former vice president/general manager of the Omaha Royals minor league team and now president of his own consulting firm.

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Well they shot the heck out of the immigration bill. For more see above and earlier pages for more on this topic. This encludes 3 comments by readers.

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Analysis: No simple solution in works
Immigration debate could end without the passing of a bill
By Carl Manning
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Published Monday, April 14, 2008
A strong push to deal with illegal immigration has been blunted, diverted and slowed so much that it could end in little more than a muddled mess.

Sensing that their constituents were angry about illegal immigrants and facing an election year, legislators began their session with many of them demanding change.

But talking, of course, is easier than doing.

"Immigration to many is simply we need to stop illegal immigrants in Kansas and one way is to make sure they don't get hired. This is a problem that seems to have a simple solution but it really doesn't," said Bob Beatty, Washburn University political science professor.

That was fairly obvious in the House, where an unusual coalition of conservative Republicans and Democrats stopped an immigration bill dead in its tracks on a procedural vote. They felt the bill had been watered down to the point of being meaningless.

Supporters argue the bill drafted by House and Senate negotiators isn't some sham to placate the business community. They point to its penalties for using false documents to get hired, human trafficking and coercing employees.

But conservatives complained about removing a proposal for mandatory use of the federal E-Verify system to check on workers. Also gone is language to revoke the business licenses of employers hiring illegal workers.

When business groups complained, those sections were replaced with civil penalties, including fines and the possibility of going to jail for contempt of court for employers. Rep. Lance Kinzer, an attorney, says that is contrary to what federal law allows.

"The bill wouldn't withstand a court challenge and would do more harm to the cause of immigration reform," said Kinzer, who helped draft the original House bill.

The Olathe Republican said he isn't giving up, but conceded, "It's going to be an uphill battle to get something that will pass."

Democrats locked arms after negotiators removed criminal penalties for illegally misclassifying any employee as an independent contractor, something unions have pushed for years.

There's no signs of any cracks in that resolve.

"We have wide support for the one tool the attorney general said would help prosecute the worst offenders," said House Minority Leader Dennis McKinney, a Greensburg Democrat. "Most of our members want to pass a bill but one that is meaningful and effective and not window dressing."

As for the politically potent business community, if no bill passes, few tears would be shed.

"We didn't have immigration on our agenda, so the short answer is, yes, we would rather see no bill than a bill that unfairly penalizes businesses," said the Kansas Chamber's Jeff Glendening.

When legislators return April 30 from their spring break, the House again can consider a procedural question, and the outcome could sink the immigration bill.

The Legislature's rules require all negotiators to agree on a compromise before either chamber can take an up-or-down vote on it. However, if a negotiator objects — as is the case with the immigration bill — both chambers can vote to suspend that rule.

"Politically, what you are getting is the Democrats saying if we are going to address this problem, it is not going to be just what the Republicans want," Beatty said.

The House refused to suspend the rule before the break. But if it changes its mind, it can vote on the compromise bill, which presumably would pass. Then the compromise would go to the Senate, which is expected to approve it and send it to Gov. Kathleen Sebelius.

But that happens only if someone — Democrats or conservative Republicans — breaks ranks.

Otherwise, the compromise goes back to the negotiators. The Senate controls the committee and decides when or if there will be further talks.

"I thought they had a good agreement and there should be a vote on that by the House before going to Plan B. If it fails on its merits, it would be proper to look at alternatives," said Senate Majority Leader Derek Schmidt, an Independence Republican.

And there's no guarantee that if negotiators met again a different bill would emerge.

Misclassification is a deal-breaker for Senate Republicans. Not including it turns off House Democrats. Neither position is likely to change.

Conservatives like Kinzer want to hear more than platitudes before getting behind the bill.

"I have to be able to tell my constituents that we passed immigration reform that is meaningful," he said. "It would be inappropriate to pass something for the sake of passing something."

Changes in the political climate also may be working against backers of the immigration bill. Increasingly, the focus is on the nation's troubled economy and how it will affect Kansans.

"That is what legislators are going to hear when they go back home, and it's going to trump immigration during this break," Beatty said.

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Posted by: RHAB at Apr 14, 2008 at 05:09:29 AM
LOOK SOUTH TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. REX

+ 1 Rating Posted by: r2mcmullen at Apr 14, 2008 at 05:52:32 AM
It is Simple. You forget who is Republican and who is Democrat and you pass a bill that stops the illegal immigration. How hard is that? This legislature is like a bunch of school kids fighting over the swingset. Get over it. While you bicker more companies our hiring illegal immigrants to steal jobs away from Americans. Sure they have passed all these feel good bills that cover up the fact this government has done nothing. NOTHING! I don't understand what the **** RHAAB means by look south. The south is what is F***ing us. If you think Mexico is where America should be looking than go to Mexico! Maybe a legal American could get your job than. How many illegal immigrant do you think is here in Topeka? More than you think. How many legal American in Topeka are out of a job because of this? More than you think. If you think this is where we need to look, than maybe you need to run for a seat in the Kansas legislature. You would fit right in. America needs to step up and fight this infestation. These people are killing the American way of life. Send them back to Mexica until they go thru the proper procedures to be legal immigrants.

+ 1 Rating Posted by: NUMBER1EAGLE at Apr 14, 2008 at 10:32:19 AM
One real problem here Mr. Manning is that you and too many others are worried about "unfairly penalizing employers", quit that nonsence and listen to the people not the businesses. They(BUSINESS)are only interested in making money. When we break the law we suffer the consequences, and so should they. THEY ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. We need immigration reform now, not later.

Posted by: mlurp at Apr 14, 2008 at 10:47:57 PM
Just both the GOP & DNC doing their power plays and getting what they want over the voice and desires of the people. Be it in Washington or here in Topeka. Each has far to much power if they effect the local city and state
government. Vote all who made this bill fail out of office.
Make our voices count. Just a thought but we have two GOP
Representatives that are far out of touch with the people of KS., and have been in office long enough! We need more like Mrs. Boyda.
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