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Old 04-24-2019, 11:43 AM
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We are told the illegal aliens flooding across our Southern border are made up of mothers with children just fleeing violence and oppression in their home country. It sounds good, but it's not true.

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A Yuma Station Border Patrol agent was assaulted by an illegal alien Sunday morning, just 10 hours before agents with the Yuma Sector Border Patrol Search Trauma and Rescue Team undertook a humanitarian mission to rescue two illegal aliens who were stranded in the desert," U.S. Customs and Border Protection [CBP] released in a statement. "On Sunday morning, three subjects made an illegal entry into the United States near Andrade, California. Agents apprehended one of the illegal aliens in the group without incident. As they attempted to apprehend the second subject, the illegal alien punched an agent multiple times and attempted to evade arrest by fleeing. Agents searched the area and apprehended the assaultive subject, an 18-year-old male from Honduras. The third subject absconded back into Mexico."
No doubt the border patrol will be blamed for enforcing the law.

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Old 04-29-2019, 09:40 AM
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We know these people are lying about fleeing violence due to the fact they crossed through multiple countries and thousands of miles to get to the US border.We know one those countries offered them refugee status and I am pretty sure that if violence was the issue then there would be safer countries closer to theirs. These people came here to make money and siphon tax payer benefits for themselves and or kids.
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We are told the illegal aliens flooding across our Southern border are made up of mothers with children just fleeing violence and oppression in their home country. It sounds good, but it's not true.

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A Yuma Station Border Patrol agent was assaulted by an illegal alien Sunday morning.

"On Sunday morning, three subjects made an illegal entry into the United States near Andrade, California. Agents apprehended one of the illegal aliens in the group without incident. As they attempted to apprehend the second subject, the illegal alien punched an agent multiple times and attempted to evade arrest by fleeing. Agents searched the area and apprehended the assaultive subject, an 18-year-old male from Honduras. The third subject absconded back into Mexico."
No doubt the border patrol will be blamed for enforcing the law.

https://townhall-com.cdn.ampproject....-week-n2545234
WOW - Talk about "pull it from your rectal cavity" argument that's so full of BS that no one with only logical brain cell would buy into it.

And why wouldn't anyone with a logical brain cell buy into this?

Let's see, we have a case of the attempted apprehension of three men where one is apprehended without incident, one runs back into Mexico to avoid apprehension, and one gets into a physical altercation with CBP agents. One physical altercation is being addressed. In Feb 2019 there were 66,450 apprehensions along the US-Mexico border. If this was the only case of resisting arrest it would represent 0.0015% of the apprehensions result in resisting arrest.

Seriously, who's going to claim a problem exists when they're documenting it only occurs 0.0015% of the time? It occurs more often than this one example indicates but even bringing it up is to lie about what's being said regarding illegal entry into the United States.

Those knowledgeable about illegal entry into the United States aren't stating that no problems exist. What they do address is the fact that border security resources that would prevent those like this one individual from entering the United States are being wasted making our border less secure.

Wouldn't we all agree that preventing more violent people from entering the United States would be a good thing? Then we should also agree wasting our border patrol resources is a bad thing. Let's see how they're being wasted.

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Vice President Mike Pence said the latest border statistics justify the president’s “national emergency” declaration, while a Republican member of Congress compared the new data to the Allied invasion of continental Europe on D-Day in World War II. Do the latest statistics on apprehensions mean the same as Border Patrol statistics from 20 years ago? What do the latest statistics on apprehensions at the border really mean?

“The number of undocumented immigrants crossing the southern border last month was the highest total for February in 12 years, according to statistics released by Customs and Border Protection,” reported NBC News. The current pace of apprehensions is less than half the 1.6 million level of Border Patrol apprehensions in FY 2000. Still, to understand the data we must dig deeper.

In general, current statistics on apprehensions are not comparable to those of earlier years. In the past, nearly everyone entering the United States unlawfully attempted to evade authorities, whereas today’s border crossers are mostly turning themselves in to Border Patrol agents and seeking asylum. The New York Times reports, “Most of those entering the country in earlier years were single men, most of them from Mexico, coming to look for work.”

In February 2019, there were 66,450 Southwest border apprehensions, with 42,999 or 65% of the apprehensions were family units or unaccompanied minors. (Apprehensions are considered a proxy for illegal entry.) In February 2019, 55% of Southwest border apprehensions were family units compared to only 3% as recently as February 2013. (Source: U.S. Border Patrol, National Foundation for American Policy)
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The difference between today and 2013 is that in 2013 the Federal Government was following the law and all of those arriving at a US Port of Entry allowed to apply for Asylum. Unaccompanied minors are automatically granted asylum under our immigration laws.

Today the Trump administration has virtually shutdown the lawful means for refugees seeking asylum to lawfully enter the United States when they arrive at a US Port of Entry. In 2018 only 22,000 people arriving at a US port of entry were allowed to apply for asylum and enter the United States in compliance with our laws. Under the Obama administration there were years where over five-times that many refugees were allowed into the United States in compliance with our laws.

65% of the work being done to address illegal entry into the United States is unnecessary work because those family units and unaccompanied children should have been processed through a US port of entry when they arrived at the US border. We're wasting 65% our CBP manpower resources to secure our border on asylum seekers that should have been handled at a US port of entry. That unnecessary demand on these CBP agents significantly reduces the CBP's ability to stop the violent people that are also crossing our border illegally.

Trump's anti-refugee/anti-asylum policies, in violation of our refugee and asylum laws, is wasting CBP manpower resources and that make our Southern border less secure.
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Anyone notice the sleight of hand?...

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In Feb 2019 there were 66,450 apprehensions along the US-Mexico border. If this was the only case of resisting arrest it would represent 0.0015% of the apprehensions result in resisting arrest.
"IF"....One of the largest words in the English dictionary...

Notice how Shiva says "IF"...Anyone with an IQ above their hat size knows it's an impossibility for this to be the ONLY incident, but the word "IF" shows it's an unknown...

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Seriously, who's going to claim a problem exists when they're documenting it only occurs 0.0015% of the time?
And there you go...

The "IF" has been whitewashed and now the ridiculous claim of there ONLY being one incident has now been thrown at us AS FACT...

So, first, it's "We have no idea how many of these incidents occur...Followed by "I know! There's only been one! End of story!"...


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WOW - Talk about "pull it from your rectal cavity" argument that's so full of BS that no one with only logical brain cell would buy into it.

And why wouldn't anyone with a logical brain cell buy into this?

Let's see, we have a case of the attempted apprehension of three men where one is apprehended without incident, one runs back into Mexico to avoid apprehension, and one gets into a physical altercation with CBP agents. One physical altercation is being addressed. In Feb 2019 there were 66,450 apprehensions along the US-Mexico border. If this was the only case of resisting arrest it would represent 0.0015% of the apprehensions result in resisting arrest.

Seriously, who's going to claim a problem exists when they're documenting it only occurs 0.0015% of the time? It occurs more often than this one example indicates but even bringing it up is to lie about what's being said regarding illegal entry into the United States.

Those knowledgeable about illegal entry into the United States aren't stating that no problems exist. What they do address is the fact that border security resources that would prevent those like this one individual from entering the United States are being wasted making our border less secure.

Wouldn't we all agree that preventing more violent people from entering the United States would be a good thing? Then we should also agree wasting our border patrol resources is a bad thing. Let's see how they're being wasted.


https://forbes.com/sites/stuartander.../#23942b105334

The difference between today and 2013 is that in 2013 the Federal Government was following the law and all of those arriving at a US Port of Entry allowed to apply for Asylum. Unaccompanied minors are automatically granted asylum under our immigration laws.

Today the Trump administration has virtually shutdown the lawful means for refugees seeking asylum to lawfully enter the United States when they arrive at a US Port of Entry. In 2018 only 22,000 people arriving at a US port of entry were allowed to apply for asylum and enter the United States in compliance with our laws. Under the Obama administration there were years where over five-times that many refugees were allowed into the United States in compliance with our laws.

65% of the work being done to address illegal entry into the United States is unnecessary work because those family units and unaccompanied children should have been processed through a US port of entry when they arrived at the US border. We're wasting 65% our CBP manpower resources to secure our border on asylum seekers that should have been handled at a US port of entry. That unnecessary demand on these CBP agents significantly reduces the CBP's ability to stop the violent people that are also crossing our border illegally.

Trump's anti-refugee/anti-asylum policies, in violation of our refugee and asylum laws, is wasting CBP manpower resources and that make our Southern border less secure.
Manitou's translation of the bullshlt in the post above--

"Wow! Those wonderful people coming here to America! I feel so much love for them, and anybody who says they are coming here illegally, well they are just plain meanies and nothing else."


Has nobody noticed in all those replies given to reporters as to why they are coming to America, close to 99 percent of them say it's because there are better opportunities in America for work.

Asylum seekers, my ass.
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