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Old 04-02-2019, 07:57 AM
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oh he has a plan alright
fill his pockets while helping big insurance and big pharma
You keep accusing President Trump of profiting from his position. Despite repeated requests from many posters her, you have provided no facts to back it up. Well it simply is not true. Trump's net worth during his time in office is declining
Here are some facts.
Donald Trump's Net Worth Keeps Dropping | Fortune

"Trump’s net worth has dropped more than $100 million over the past year, down to $2.8 billion—the lowest since his campaign for president. While that may still be a bigger number than most of us can ever hope to see next to our name, it marks a continued decline for Trump.

This is the president’s second drop in net worth in the last two years. Bloomberg notes that much of the decline can be attributed to falling revenue from his tower on Fifth Avenue in New York and from his golf courses, as well as the loss of buildings in Toronto, Manhattan, and Panama."
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So, you had to post links for her.... did I say she was making stuff up? Please site where....
You certainly implied that.

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I'm more current on matters that you have no clue about, but that's fine....
Then why do you pretend to be so ignorant?


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Your last article, is hype on maybes, and short on actual facts, so pointless in the least, and inflammatory in the most.

And this caught my eye from your first link.... So the drug companies wanted to continue the bonus plan started by Obama with the passage of the PPACA, and Trump wanted to bring drug prices down, and rightfully so, if you've kept current in the cost if life savings drugs, you would understand this.
You are still stuck in this weird reality where you think anything tRUmp says is true. I'm sorry I have to tell you this, but tRUmp lies about everything. When he was saying he wanted to lower drug prices, he was actually telling the drug companies in private that he wanted them to do whatever the hell they wanted to do and raise prices as much as they wanted. In fact, that's pretty much been the standard GOP MO for healthcare costs ever since I can remember.

Seriously, stop acting so indignant when I call out your intellectually dishonesty and lazyness. You need to try harder, i respond to your posts because I know you can.
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You certainly implied that.
So according to this, requesting validation of someone's statement, is accusing them of making stuff up? If I were to say that today the sky would change to purple for 10 minutes, would you not ask for something to back up that statement?

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Then why do you pretend to be so ignorant?
I'm not ignorant on most subjects, but I also don't spend the time researching things that are factually incorrect, blatantly partisan or flame bait. I do research subjects and events that actually have an effect on the economy, businesses, employment and employment practices, healthcare and the like.

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You are still stuck in this weird reality where you think anything tRUmp says is true. I'm sorry I have to tell you this, but tRUmp lies about everything. When he was saying he wanted to lower drug prices, he was actually telling the drug companies in private that he wanted them to do whatever the hell they wanted to do and raise prices as much as they wanted. In fact, that's pretty much been the standard GOP MO for healthcare costs ever since I can remember.

Seriously, stop acting so indignant when I call out your intellectually dishonesty and lazyness. You need to try harder, i respond to your posts because I know you can.
If you are going to fling partisan BS, maybe you need to understand a few things. I've said a number of times on this forum, but I will say it clearly, here, just for you. I did not vote for Trump, I do not like Trump as a person, and I take every statement made by any political figure with a ton of salt and some research.

So, you were present when he was telling the drug companies to do what they want. That as under the PPACA, they would not be touched, and they could charge whatever they wanted, and the market would carry it. Really?

Here's just one example that proves that false: https://investor.lilly.com/news-rele...priced-insulin

And one that shows when generics hit the market, prices drop: https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/researc...ion-still-lags

And drugs coming off patent which allows generics, plus some other interesting tidbits on drug futures. https://medcitynews.com/2018/12/two-...n-in-congress/

What you deem, in amusing words, intellectual dishonesty, is actually a different POV than yours, which apparently you have issues accepting. OK, not everyone sees things the same way. But I'll recommend you actually get to know who you are discussing what with.
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So according to this, requesting validation of someone's statement, is accusing them of making stuff up? If I were to say that today the sky would change to purple for 10 minutes, would you not ask for something to back up that statement?

I'm not ignorant on most subjects, but I also don't spend the time researching things that are factually incorrect, blatantly partisan or flame bait. I do research subjects and events that actually have an effect on the economy, businesses, employment and employment practices, healthcare and the like.



If you are going to fling partisan BS, maybe you need to understand a few things. I've said a number of times on this forum, but I will say it clearly, here, just for you. I did not vote for Trump, I do not like Trump as a person, and I take every statement made by any political figure with a ton of salt and some research.

So, you were present when he was telling the drug companies to do what they want. That as under the PPACA, they would not be touched, and they could charge whatever they wanted, and the market would carry it. Really?

Here's just one example that proves that false: https://investor.lilly.com/news-rele...priced-insulin

And one that shows when generics hit the market, prices drop: https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/researc...ion-still-lags

And drugs coming off patent which allows generics, plus some other interesting tidbits on drug futures. https://medcitynews.com/2018/12/two-...n-in-congress/

What you deem, in amusing words, intellectual dishonesty, is actually a different POV than yours, which apparently you have issues accepting. OK, not everyone sees things the same way. But I'll recommend you actually get to know who you are discussing what with.
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What have you done with RedState????
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You keep accusing President Trump of profiting from his position. Despite repeated requests from many posters her, you have provided no facts to back it up. Well it simply is not true. Trump's net worth during his time in office is declining
Here are some facts.
Donald Trump's Net Worth Keeps Dropping | Fortune

"Trumpís net worth has dropped more than $100 million over the past year, down to $2.8 billionóthe lowest since his campaign for president. While that may still be a bigger number than most of us can ever hope to see next to our name, it marks a continued decline for Trump.

This is the presidentís second drop in net worth in the last two years. Bloomberg notes that much of the decline can be attributed to falling revenue from his tower on Fifth Avenue in New York and from his golf courses, as well as the loss of buildings in Toronto, Manhattan, and Panama."
you know he does by the choices he makes. nothing explains his policies but that.
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you know he does by the choices he makes. nothing explains his policies but that.
I know you post from your phone, and sometimes links don't want to copy. I know not everybody has the time to search and provide back up to their statements, myself included.

But do you honestly see this as a valid response? It's as vague as your original statement.
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