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Old 07-23-2018, 10:18 AM
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well looks like intelligence specialist did due diligence
my son keeps asking me why hasn't trump been impeached yet.
Please don't answer your son on that question, he should get facts not conspiracy theory. Advise him to take a civics class.
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That Tillerson was being looked at for SoS was not exactly secret.
Why did Trump pick Tillerson is a key question. Tillerson and Trump didn't know each other and Tillerson had financially supported Romney in the past but never endorsed Trump, never made any contributions to the Trump campaign, and never participated in helping the Trump campaign. On top of that Tillerson had no diplomatic experience that would qualify him for the top diplomatic position in the United States.

Tillerson had one thing going for him. Tillerson had a close business relationship with Vladimir Putin based upon oil contracts that were held up by sanctions against Russia and Trump wanted to lift those sanctions. Of course Putin had given Tillerson the "Russian Friendship" award and anyone that was a friend of Putin's was a friend of Trump's.

It has been reported, I believe from the court filings, that accused Russian agent Maria Butina had contracted Alexander Torshin about Mitt Romney's possible selection as the Sect. of State and that Russia (Putin) was highly opposed to Romney because of Romney's anti-Russia positions.

How Trump selected Rex Tillerson, basically an unknown, remains a secret to this day. It wasn't based upon any qualifications for the position of Sect of State because Tillerson didn't have any qualifications for Sect of State.

So why do you think Trump picked Tillerson if it wasn't because of Tillerson's connections with Vladimir Putin?
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Why did Trump pick Tillerson is a key question. Tillerson and Trump didn't know each other and Tillerson had financially supported Romney in the past but never endorsed Trump, never made any contributions to the Trump campaign, and never participated in helping the Trump campaign. On top of that Tillerson had no diplomatic experience that would qualify him for the top diplomatic position in the United States.

Tillerson had one thing going for him. Tillerson had a close business relationship with Vladimir Putin based upon oil contracts that were held up by sanctions against Russia and Trump wanted to lift those sanctions. Of course Putin had given Tillerson the "Russian Friendship" award and anyone that was a friend of Putin's was a friend of Trump's.

It has been reported, I believe from the court filings, that accused Russian agent Maria Butina had contracted Alexander Torshin about Mitt Romney's possible selection as the Sect. of State and that Russia (Putin) was highly opposed to Romney because of Romney's anti-Russia positions.

How Trump selected Rex Tillerson, basically an unknown, remains a secret to this day. It wasn't based upon any qualifications for the position of Sect of State because Tillerson didn't have any qualifications for Sect of State.

So why do you think Trump picked Tillerson if it wasn't because of Tillerson's connections with Vladimir Putin?
Down the Russian conspiracy rabbit hole again.

Tillerson has experience and contacts negotiating with a number of foreign governments many of them overtly unfriendly. Unlike the career politicians often appointed to the position he displayed skill at negotiating to reach a desirable outcome.

Tillerson also showed skill at structuring large organizations to make them manageable. The State department has over 90K employees but it's organization is a hub and spoke where with dozens of bureaucracies operating independently of each other with direct reporting to the secretary. This results is a fractured message and fosters turf wars. It also allows incompetents like Hillary Clinton to hide behind excuses like I am not responsible for security.

Trump chose Tillerson based on his proven track record of international relations and his ability as a leader of a large organization.
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