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I'm gonna guess you have never been to Texas.

There are a lot of Latinos in Texas and a lot of Mexican immigrants in Texas. But with the glaring exception of Cobalt Blue Houston, there is little tolerance for illegal immigrants in most of Texas. Most of which BTW, is not "farmland."
Lived in Brazoria County for 13 years. Husband did odd carpentry work for ranchers/farmers at times. There's a lot more to Texas than Houston and Austin.
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Lived in Brazoria County for 13 years. Husband did odd carpentry work for ranchers/farmers at times. There's a lot more to Texas than Houston and Austin.
Been to Houston, never been to Austin.
Produce farms in east Texas, cattle in west Texas, any and every other industry throughout.

You lived there? Why then did you generalize the state as farmers?


I have two brothers living there. One in Dallas Fort Worth and one near Waco. And several business contacts through out the state. All I'm saying is, unless you count cow ranching, Texas isn't all farming. In fact it's economy is very comprehensive from family farms, to mining and petrochemicals, energy production, finance and the space industry.

To the point of the OP illegals are detested by most of the population, including Mexican-Americans.
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I'm gonna guess you have never been to Texas.

There are a lot of Latinos in Texas and a lot of Mexican immigrants in Texas. But with the glaring exception of Cobalt Blue Houston, there is little tolerance for illegal immigrants in most of Texas. Most of which BTW, is not "farmland."
Much of the concentration of commercially ran farm lands in Texas are in the Rio Grande valley or as it is called in Texas, the Valley. And those farms are closely scrutinized precisely because Texas does enforce those laws. During harvesting season the workers are there under work visas as was correctly pointed out previously.

I was recently in the Del Rio area touring petroglyph sites near Seminole Canyon. The border patrol presence there is massive and active these days. I passed through three check points and saw a border patrol vehicle virtually every few miles or every few minutes all weekend long. I was surprised by this too, I've been to Del Rio many times and the presence of the border patrol has definitely increased there.

My grandparents had a large produce farm in East Texas for over 50 years. Sadly there are not many farms like that in the area anymore. And sadly this is happening all over the state.

Asphalt is the last crop

Bob McCan, For the Express-News Published 5:18 pm, Wednesday, April 25, 2018
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Snowflake Americans don't do any labor, much less hard labor. But lots of teenagers and young people looking for transitional work (perhaps while in school) and older unskilled Americans might appreciate getting a shot at jobs such as these, that illegal aliens long ago took from them. Of course for the same reason those jobs don't pay what they used to, ya know owing to how cheap illegal aliens will work. Obviously to your rather short sighted cheers.
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I beg to differ with you on the above statements you made. Illegals never tok jobs period. It was accepted that workers would come across our boarder during the harvest seasons.


Also the pay is bad because as usual the employers beat the system set hours and pay.. Over charge for housing (which is crap with out running water in many cases.) food basics etc....


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Unless we remove the opportunity for employment, no border security will work. Not a fence, not a wall, not even machine gun nests.

Fines and court costs will not stop employers from abusing the resource of cheap underground labor. Far too many lawyers and politicians can be greased with the obscene profits to be gained. So, eliminate Sanctuary cities and jail employers who cheat. The illegal immigration will stop.


Far too many illegal immigrants do not come to the USA to be "Americans. They come here for work and want to retain the country and culture they left. They do not aspire to be Americans. That's why we see Mexican, Honduran, and Guatemalan flags at every open border demonstration and riot.


I agree we need it over hauled and improved..

Let me remind all that our government let the Pelt hunters and Gold miners go in, trespass, to Indian lands to steal the furs and gold. Later we took over those lands. And destroyed THEIR cultures.


And the point is?


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I beg to differ with you on the above statements you made. Illegals never tok jobs period. It was accepted that workers would come across our boarder during the harvest seasons.


Also the pay is bad because as usual the employers beat the system set hours and pay.. Over charge for housing (which is crap with out running water in many cases.) food basics etc....


You'll have to explain yourself because the text of mine you highlighted does not have anything to do with housing. For that matter I've never heard of a landscaping company that housed its employees. Ever.

Aside from that I've seen first hand and we have another poster in the thread who has seen the same thing happen in the landscaping business. So you'll need to back up your claim that illegal aliens have not taken landscaping (for that matter day labor jobs) jobs from anyone since this is a pretty well documented situation for a couple of decades now.
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[QUOTE=mlurp;936592]snowflake is it,


I beg to differ with you on the above statements you made. Illegals never tok jobs period. It was accepted that workers would come across our boarder during the harvest seasons.


Also the pay is bad because as usual the employers beat the system set hours and pay.. Over charge for housing (which is crap with out running water in many cases.) food basics etc....


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And yet those illegals came here willingly on temporary work visas. It must have been better here than where the came from. Most of them returned the following year even after experiencing those dismal conditions and low pay.

And when the last berry was picked, the last sugar beet was harvested, the temporary visas were turned in and they headed south across the river.
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Been to Houston, never been to Austin.
Produce farms in east Texas, cattle in west Texas, any and every other industry throughout.

You lived there? Why then did you generalize the state as farmers?


I have two brothers living there. One in Dallas Fort Worth and one near Waco. And several business contacts through out the state. All I'm saying is, unless you count cow ranching, Texas isn't all farming. In fact it's economy is very comprehensive from family farms, to mining and petrochemicals, energy production, finance and the space industry.

To the point of the OP illegals are detested by most of the population, including Mexican-Americans.
I didn't generalize the state as farmers. The farmers though do have vast tracts of land where it is easy to support many southern border crossers. And they do. Texas historically fyi has never complied with an immigration bill that I know of.
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You'll have to explain yourself because the text of mine you highlighted does not have anything to do with housing. For that matter I've never heard of a landscaping company that housed its employees. Ever.

Aside from that I've seen first hand and we have another poster in the thread who has seen the same thing happen in the landscaping business. So you'll need to back up your claim that illegal aliens have not taken landscaping (for that matter day labor jobs) jobs from anyone since this is a pretty well documented situation for a couple of decades now.
How can an immigrant take a job The jobs are given by an employer.
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I didn't generalize the state as farmers. The farmers though do have vast tracts of land where it is easy to support many southern border crossers. And they do. Texas historically fyi has never complied with an immigration bill that I know of.
You're kidding us right?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ard/494948002/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-s...ion-crackdown/
https://immigration.findlaw.com/immi...tion-laws.html

Texas most certainly fights to stop border crossings. And land owners you speak of have complained for decades about the trespass on their lands. Time after time, Texas anti illegals immigration laws are challenged in courts
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/18/u...tificates.html
https://www4.bing.com/videos/search?...tion&FORM=VDRE

But both the state and the irritated "farmers" are told it is a Federal issue. So they are limited in what they can do, both in resources available and legal process allowable.

Now I've backed up my claim, and discredited yours. Do you have something besides an illegitimate opinion to counter?
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