Immigration agents arrest 114 at Ohio landscaper - Page 2

jimbo · #11 (**permalink**) 06-10-2018, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

aliens didnt take those jobs away; employers brought them here on a work visa and it never was checked for renewal . employers hedged out the white and black people who used to do farm type labor- picking fruit etc. then it caught on in other types employment. then some companies were set for that cheap labor and things got screwed up.

Not really, Salty. Immigrant labor came here legally with issued work visas, They followed the harvest or worked on the construction job until it was done then they went home.

The largest influx of non citizen labor occurred during WW II when our low skilled workers were busy fighting the war. The foreigners and Rosie the Riveter filled in the gaps. When the hostilities ceased, Mexican labor went home. Operation Wetback if you want to put a name to it.

Topcat · #12 (**permalink**) 06-10-2018, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Schochite

Snowflake Americans don't do any labor, much less hard labor. But lots of teenagers and young people looking for transitional work (perhaps while in school) and older unskilled Americans might appreciate getting a shot at jobs such as these, that illegal aliens long ago took from them. Of course for the same reason those jobs don't pay what they used to, ya know owing to how cheap illegal aliens will work. Obviously to your rather short sighted cheers.

Teenagers in this country are lazy and don't want to do sh*t.

saltwn · #13 (**permalink**) 06-10-2018, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Topcat

Teenagers in this country are lazy and don't want to do sh*t.

unfortunate but true

saltwn · #14 (**permalink**) 06-10-2018, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo

Not really, Salty. Immigrant labor came here legally with issued work visas, They followed the harvest or worked on the construction job until it was done then they went home.

The largest influx of non citizen labor occurred during WW II when our low skilled workers were busy fighting the war. The foreigners and Rosie the Riveter filled in the gaps. When the hostilities ceased, Mexican labor went home. Operation Wetback if you want to put a name to it.

Most of that is true
I know for a fact places like florida that used to have slave labor (blacks picked up at random as kids or drunks and put on farms in the boonies) till the 70s (when it was exposed) started replacing those with mexican crews/no papers.

FrancSevin · #15 (**permalink**) 06-10-2018, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

aliens didnt take those jobs away; employers brought them here on a work visa and it never was checked for renewal . employers hedged out the white and black people who used to do farm type labor- picking fruit etc. then it caught on in other types employment. then some companies were set for that cheap labor and things got screwed up.

No Salty, our government "allowed" a porous border so the illegals could cross.

Sanctuary cities made it lucrative for businesses to abuse the system and get away with violating the law.

The employers took advantage yes, but failure to enforce our laws was the crime that allowed the abuse.

FrancSevin · #16 (**permalink**) 06-10-2018, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Topcat

Teenagers in this country are lazy and don't want to do sh*t.

I've been managing or owning businesses for over forty years. We used to have a crop of eager youngsters at the door every spring looking for a first job with which to get some experience on their resume's. I haven't seen any for the last ten or so years. Not a one.

Most seem to think they are entitled to a "vacation" from effort between High School and college. Years later, degree in hand they come demanding a higher salary than I myself take home. I let them know without experience, and at a marketable wage rate, their expectations will not be met.

They leave pissed or laughing and move into mommy's basement

saltwn · #17 (**permalink**) 06-10-2018, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FrancSevin

No Salty, our government "allowed" a porous border so the illegals could cross.
There were already illegals but more took the chance under Reagan 's amnesty rule yes.
Sanctuary cities made it lucrative for businesses to abuse the system and get away with violating the law.
sanctuary cities as far as I know just came into being as a reaction to no updated immigration laws
The employers took advantage yes, but failure to enforce our laws was the crime that allowed the abuse.

yes failure to enforce big companies hiring them. plus Texas never enforces those laws cause the farms are so vast they can be hidden for years

FrancSevin · #18 (**permalink**) 06-10-2018, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

Man this company had plenty of Illegals....

Immigration agents arrest 114 at Ohio landscaper

JOHN MINCHILLO and ELLIOT SPAGAT, Associated Press • June 5, 2018

SANDUSKY, Ohio (AP) — More than 100 workers at an Ohio gardening and landscaping company were arrested Tuesday when about 200 federal officers descended on the business and carried out one of the largest workplace immigration raids in recent years.

The operation was part of the White House's increasing focus on businesses that hire people in the country illegally amid a broad range of immigration crackdowns under President Donald Trump that include stepped-up deportations, targeting of sanctuary cities and zero-tolerance border policies.

………………………………………………………………. Continued At

https://www.yahoo.com/news/immigrati...140227951.html

Unless we remove the opportunity for employment, no border security will work. Not a fence, not a wall, not even machine gun nests.

Fines and court costs will not stop employers from abusing the resource of cheap underground labor. Far too many lawyers and politicians can be greased with the obscene profits to be gained. So, eliminate Sanctuary cities and jail employers who cheat. The illegal immigration will stop.

Far too many illegal immigrants do not come to the USA to be "Americans. They come here for work and want to retain the country and culture they left. They do not aspire to be Americans. That's why we see Mexican, Honduran, and Guatemalan flags at every open border demonstration and riot.

Let me remind all that our government let the Pelt hunters and Gold miners go in, trespass, to Indian lands to steal the furs and gold. Later we took over those lands. And destroyed THEIR cultures.

saltwn · #19 (**permalink**) 06-10-2018, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FrancSevin

Unless we remove the opportunity for employment, no border security will work. Not a fence, not a wall, not even machine gun nests.

Fines and court costs will not stop employers from abusing the resource of cheap underground labor. Far too many lawyers and politicians can be greased with the obscene profits to be gained.

Far too many come do not come to the USA to be "Americans. they come here for work and want to retain the country they left. That's why we see Mexican, Honduran, and Guatemalan flags at every open border demonstration and riot.

So, eliminate Sanctuary cities and jail employers who cheat. The illegal immigration will stop.

Let me remind all that our government let the gold minors go in to Indian lands to steal the gold. Later we took over those lands.

The third component of that would be a comprehensive immigration bill.
I prefer it not be attempted (again) under this POTUS, as I think it would further kick the can, but soon.

FrancSevin · #20 (**permalink**) 06-10-2018, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

yes failure to enforce big companies hiring them. plus Texas never enforces those laws cause the farms are so vast they can be hidden for years

I'm gonna guess you have never been to Texas.

There are a lot of Latinos in Texas and a lot of Mexican immigrants in Texas. But with the glaring exception of Cobalt Blue Houston, there is little tolerance for illegal immigrants in most of Texas. Most of which BTW, is not "farmland."

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