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Why are police still arresting children for ‘prostitution’?
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As many as 100,000 minors become trapped in the sex trade every year in the United States, according to one estimate. Under federal law, each child is a victim of a serious crime. So why are police in many parts of the U.S. still treating these children as criminals—and why isn’t the government doing more to stop it?

The federal Trafficking Victims Protection Act (TVPA) makes very clear that any child under 18 who is sold for sex is by definition a victim of trafficking, whether or not fraud, force or coercion is involved. Children are legally incapable of consenting to sex with an adult, let alone selling themselves. But states aren’t required to comply with federal law—unless a state policy violates the Constitution—and many have criminal codes that don’t recognize minors as trafficking victims.

Police in these states can—and do—arrest and jail children for “prostitution.” A total of 656 children were arrested for this crime nationwide in 2013, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. That number is undoubtedly higher, since police departments voluntarily submit arrest data and about 20 percent of departments choose not to report.

An exclusive Fusion analysis of FBI data found that California arrested the most child sex trafficking victims of any state in 2013, making 205 arrests. The city with the highest number of child arrests for “prostitution” that year was Las Vegas with 98 arrests. One child under 10 years old was arrested in Minneapolis in 2013, according to FBI data. (The Minneapolis police department could not confirm this, because after six months the state discards the records of juveniles who were arrested and not charged.) Only 10 states have laws granting children full immunity from prosecution for the crime of prostitution....
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Because it is the best way to get to the pimps who abuse them. Perhaps we could make prostitution legal and then not have to arrest people for doing things society would wish their children didn't do.


Then, to keep our jails from filling up, we could try this approach to other crimes. eventually closing the prison system down for lack of business.!!!! Wow! yeah that'll work.
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Because it is the best way to get to the pimps who abuse them. Perhaps we could make prostitution legal and then not have to arrest people for doing things society would wish their children didn't do.


Then, to keep our jails from filling up, we could try this approach to other crimes. eventually closing the prison system down for lack of business.!!!! Wow! yeah that'll work.
Franc are you serious?
did you read the article?
we're talking about minors, like 10 years girls in sex slavery.
that's THE BEST way to "get to pimps" . to put the abused girl or boy in Juvie? and give them a criminal record. really?
Are the pimps the main ones we should be concerned about here?
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Franc are you serious?
did you read the article?
we're talking about minors, like 10 years girls in sex slavery.
that's THE BEST way to "get to pimps" . to put the abused girl or boy in Juvie? and give them a criminal record. really?
Are the pimps the main ones we should be concerned about here?
I would think it is the best way to get the children off the street, and into the DHS system. As unwonderful as the DHS system may be, it has to be better then what they were involved in.

I would guess that if they don't arrest them, they can't get them into the system.
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I would think it is the best way to get the children off the street, and into the DHS system. As unwonderful as the DHS system may be, it has to be better then what they were involved in.

I would guess that if they don't arrest them, they can't get them into the system.
Cops can pick up mental patients off the street without arrest, they can pick up lost children without arrest.
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Cops can take all kinds of victims of abuse out of bad situations without arresting them.

and while the CPS is no paradise, it's hopefully better than being pimp out on the street.
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Franc are you serious?
did you read the article?
we're talking about minors, like 10 years girls in sex slavery.
that's THE BEST way to "get to pimps" . to put the abused girl or boy in Juvie? and give them a criminal record. really?
Are the pimps the main ones we should be concerned about here?
It matter's not about how old the children are. If a 10 year old persistently shop lifts, then they should be arrested. Innocence and youth are not always the same thing.

However, in the case of you prostitutes they can be considered the victims, yes. But to catch the real perps, the abusers, you have to grab the kids because the are visible. The johns and the pimps are not.

Of course what parent would allow this? Again the kids must be apprehended to ascertain that guilty party as well.

And whilst they should be punished they have to be caught for their crimes as well. If you have a better idea, one that will actually work and make the young prostitutes somehow "innocents" again,,,; I'm sure the police would love to hear it.
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It matter's not about how old the children are. If a 10 year old persistently shop lifts, then they should be arrested. Innocence and youth are not always the same thing.

However, in the case of you prostitutes they can be considered the victims, yes. But to catch the real perps, the abusers, you have to grab the kids because the are visible. The johns and the pimps are not.

Of course what parent would allow this? Again the kids must be apprehended to ascertain that guilty party as well.

And whilst they should be punished they have to be caught for their crimes as well. If you have a better idea, one that will actually work and make the young prostitutes somehow "innocents" again,,,; I'm sure the police would love to hear it.
I'm not quite sure how to respond to what you've said here Franc.
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Cops can pick up mental patients off the street without arrest, they can pick up lost children without arrest.
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Cops can take all kinds of victims of abuse out of bad situations without arresting them.

and while the CPS is no paradise, it's hopefully better than being pimp out on the street.
None of your examples were of people breaking the law. Prostitution IS. There is no age exemption.
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I'm not quite sure how to respond to what you've said here Franc.
Why? it's not that complicated a question.

But, I understand, it is a conundrum to find an answer.

What solution do you offer that stops the crime and makes the perpetrator innocent?

Other than making prostitution, at any age, legal, I doubt there is an answer.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't attempt to help these "victims." Any more than we should attempt remediation of thieves and bullies.
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None of your examples were of people breaking the law. Prostitution IS. There is no age exemption.
Here's the thing Franc, seems clear to me that ...at the least... any 10 - 14 year child is not committing prostitution. They are simply getting rapped... serially.
So by default they have not committed any crime.
does that make any sense?
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