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Default The FCC is Suspiciously Blocking Investigation Into Comment Fraud

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Investigation of fake net neutrality foes has been stymied by the FCC, New York attorney general says

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New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman started to investigate after noticing many of these comments involved people in New York. There was an unexpected roadblock along the way: the FCC declined to cooperate with his office’s investigation, he said, rebuffing requests for logs and other records associated with the comments.
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The disclosure the FCC had denied Schneiderman’s request was made in an open letter he wrote to FCC Chairman Ajit Pai this week.
The FCC Is Blocking a Law Enforcement Investigation Into Net Neutrality Comment Fraud


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The FCC is blocking a law enforcement investigation into fraudulent comments designed to provide bogus support for the agency’s looming net neutrality repeal. New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman recently announced his office has been conducting an investigation into who submitted millions of fraudulent comments (some using the identities of dead people) during the public comment period.
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The FCC is already facing a lawsuit alleging the agency ignored FOIA requests pertaining to these fake comments. The agency similarly told me there was nothing it could do after someone hijacked my identity to claim I falsely supported killing net neutrality protections.
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Detailed analysis of the record 22 million comments filed with the agency indicate the majority of the public overwhelmingly supports keeping the rules intact. But several analysts also found that some group or individual tried to counter this genuine opposition with fake support for the plan. Schneiderman's office believes these comments were filed by a bot that pulled identities from a compromised database of some kind.
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"We all have a powerful reason to hold accountable those who would steal Americans’ identities and assault the public’s right to be heard in government rulemaking"
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According to Schneiderman, his office made nine attempts over a period of five months to obtain server logs, API key details, or other information that could aid his office’s investigation into the identity theft. But in a public letter to FCC boss Ajit Pai, Schneiderman noted that the agency simply refused to aid the investigation in any capacity whatsoever.
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In a letter to the AG’s office by FCC General Counsel Thomas Johnson, the agency lawyer again makes it clear the FCC has no interest in helping law enforcement get to the bottom of whoever is behind the farmed support for its repeal. Throughout the letter, Johnson repeatedly tries to imply that the wholesale fraud that occurred is inconsequential.
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Johnson told the AG’s office that "while your letter suggests that the public comment process was somehow 'corrupted' by the alleged submission of comments under false names, you offer no evidence that this activity affected the Commission’s ability to review and respond to comments in the record."
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Under the Administrative Procedures Act, the FCC is required to solicit and seriously consider relevant comments from the public whenever issuing what’s called a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM). Consumer groups charge the current FCC is not only ignoring the massive public backlash to the rules’ repeal, but is turning a blind eye to comment fraud in order to raise doubts about the validity of the entire process—and therefore the value of legitimate public opposition.
If the FCC doesn't do their job, this will happen again.
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The FCC is doing their job. As the FCC lawyer pointed out, there is no evidence the allegedly phony comments inhibited the FCC from doing their job. If all it takes to stop rule changes is to generate suspicious comments, then no rule changes can take place. Likewise if we allow agencies to declare comments invalid then that opens the door to political corruption.

Many of the same people vehemently opposed to voter ID, calling it voter suppression, now demand extensive validation for comments.
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The FCC is doing their job. As the FCC lawyer pointed out, there is no evidence the allegedly phony comments inhibited the FCC from doing their job. If all it takes to stop rule changes is to generate suspicious comments, then no rule changes can take place. Likewise if we allow agencies to declare comments invalid then that opens the door to political corruption.

Many of the same people vehemently opposed to voter ID, calling it voter suppression, now demand extensive validation for comments.
the FCC has the power to rule whatever way they want pro or con comments. it is simply a rule the general public must have easily accessible input on upcoming huge changes.
the comments were still overwhelmingly in favor of keeping net neutrality; that didn't stop the FCC from going ahead with the former telecommunications CEO chairman's plan.
While that is fishy it is not what the state of new york is investigating.
they are investigating for the new yorkers who had their identities stolen and falsely entered as commenters. last four of ss#, addresses, names had to be filled out in order to post to this FCC comment section.
So the FCC headed by Ajit Pai is committing obstruction of justice.
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the FCC has the power to rule whatever way they want pro or con comments. it is simply a rule the general public must have easily accessible input on upcoming huge changes.
the comments were still overwhelmingly in favor of keeping net neutrality; that didn't stop the FCC from going ahead with the former telecommunications CEO chairman's plan.
While that is fishy it is not what the state of new york is investigating.
they are investigating for the new yorkers who had their identities stolen and falsely entered as commenters. last four of ss#, addresses, names had to be filled out in order to post to this FCC comment section.
So the FCC headed by Ajit Pai is committing obstruction of justice.
Actually, yhe FCC has no obligation to assist in a state probe. If the NY AG wants this information, he can, and should, obtain it in other ways.
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Actually, yhe FCC has no obligation to assist in a state probe. If the NY AG wants this information, he can, and should, obtain it in other ways.
Yes I believe any government agency is not supposed to block a criminal investigation. Besides FCC is responsible for helping to keep its agency safe from hackers having been given the information that it has already happened once. An Oregon congressman is among those whose false opinion was posted with personal information.. One daughter was burying her mother the same day the deceased woman was supposed to have commented also with her address etc.

Not doing everything he can to help clear this up might lead one to believe Ajit Pai got this info from and ex employer...
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the FCC has the power to rule whatever way they want pro or con comments. it is simply a rule the general public must have easily accessible input on upcoming huge changes.
the comments were still overwhelmingly in favor of keeping net neutrality; that didn't stop the FCC from going ahead with the former telecommunications CEO chairman's plan.
While that is fishy it is not what the state of new york is investigating.
they are investigating for the new yorkers who had their identities stolen and falsely entered as commenters. last four of ss#, addresses, names had to be filled out in order to post to this FCC comment section.
So the FCC headed by Ajit Pai is committing obstruction of justice.
The NY AG has no business investigating a potential Federal crime. Are the other 49 states supposed to turn this into a circus of resistance to Trump by launching their own investigations? If warranted, the FBI ought to investigate. Oh wait, they are too busy acting as a partisan political weapon trying to save us from the last election.

The NY AG brags about the more than 100 legal actions his office has taken not to fight crime in NY state as his job requires but to attack Trump. Of course this partisan political grandstanding makes him the perfect tool for the Mueller witch hunt. There is always room for another partisan political hack in Mueller's so-called objective probe.
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The NY AG has no business investigating a potential Federal crime. Are the other 49 states supposed to turn this into a circus of resistance to Trump by launching their own investigations? If warranted, the FBI ought to investigate. Oh wait, they are too busy acting as a partisan political weapon trying to save us from the last election.

The NY AG brags about the more than 100 legal actions his office has taken not to fight crime in NY state as his job requires but to attack Trump. Of course this partisan political grandstanding makes him the perfect tool for the Mueller witch hunt. There is always room for another partisan political hack in Mueller's so-called objective probe.
Crime against NY citizens. So yes they do have the right.
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Crime against NY citizens. So yes they do have the right.
What crime has been committed?
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What crime has been committed?
Identity theft.
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