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Crime against NY citizens. So yes they do have the right.
Nope it is a potential crime where the victim is a Federal agency so that makes it a Federal investigation. We cannot have 50 separate attorneys general each conducting an investigation that would be chaos and a huge waste of resources due to redundancy.

Remember Democrats howling about state's like AZ wanting to actually enforce immigration law? Well, here is the unintended consequence of that policy, state's don't get to conduct their own investigation of identity theft where the victim is a Federal agency. Of course the solemn invocations of Federal supremacy are cast aside when a partisan activist state AG wants to attack the Trump administration.

Every illegal alien working in the state of NY has likely committed identity theft. But the state AG cannot interrupt his political grandstanding to investigate that.
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Nope it is a potential crime where the victim is a Federal agency so that makes it a Federal investigation. We cannot have 50 separate attorneys general each conducting an investigation that would be chaos and a huge waste of resources due to redundancy.

Remember Democrats howling about state's like AZ wanting to actually enforce immigration law? Well, here is the unintended consequence of that policy, state's don't get to conduct their own investigation of identity theft where the victim is a Federal agency. Of course the solemn invocations of Federal supremacy are cast aside when a partisan activist state AG wants to attack the Trump administration.

Every illegal alien working in the state of NY has likely committed identity theft. But the state AG cannot interrupt his political grandstanding to investigate that.
NY State AG webpage
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Immigration Services Fraud

Immigration fraud is an issue of national importance affecting large segments of communities. Immigration fraud is generally defined as individuals and companies who target vulnerable immigrants by providing unauthorized and fraudulent immigration services.

As part of the Attorney General's initiative to combat immigration fraud, the Civil Rights Bureau is investigating individuals and companies who target immigrant communities with false promises of residency and citizenship or provide services without having the legal authority to do so. The Civil Rights Bureau recently entered into agreements with several individuals and entities and filed complaints against others in New York State. The agreements permanently bar the individuals from operating immigration-related businesses and requires they collectively pay $118,000 in monetary relief. The lawsuits filed in NYS Supreme Court allege the companies were not authorized nor accredited to provide immigration legal services. Further, the Civil Rights Bureau filed suit against a Queens county woman for defrauding hundreds of immigrants out of more than $250,000 and has demanded documents and testimony from more than 80 organizations and individuals who purportedly provide immigration services.
..."
The AGs (and LEO's) of various states and localities have to deal with immigration issues of all kinds. I have no problems with State laws As long as they aren't BS, knee jerk, corporate, or discriminatory. And they are constitutional.
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Nope it is a potential crime where the victim is a Federal agency so that makes it a Federal investigation. We cannot have 50 separate attorneys general each conducting an investigation that would be chaos and a huge waste of resources due to redundancy.

Remember Democrats howling about state's like AZ wanting to actually enforce immigration law? Well, here is the unintended consequence of that policy, state's don't get to conduct their own investigation of identity theft where the victim is a Federal agency. Of course the solemn invocations of Federal supremacy are cast aside when a partisan activist state AG wants to attack the Trump administration.

Every illegal alien working in the state of NY has likely committed identity theft. But the state AG cannot interrupt his political grandstanding to investigate that.
no. it is already a crime. someone stole your name, address and social security number to join something, write a billboard, take out and ad (as you) or comment as you about a subject on a federal (or any other) website.
My personal opinion for the reason Ajit Pia doesn't cooperate is he ordered it done.
but it was done nevertheless. it is unlawful
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Immigration Services Fraud

Immigration fraud is an issue of national importance affecting large segments of communities. Immigration fraud is generally defined as individuals and companies who target vulnerable immigrants by providing unauthorized and fraudulent immigration services.

As part of the Attorney General's initiative to combat immigration fraud, the Civil Rights Bureau is investigating individuals and companies who target immigrant communities with false promises of residency and citizenship or provide services without having the legal authority to do so. The Civil Rights Bureau recently entered into agreements with several individuals and entities and filed complaints against others in New York State. The agreements permanently bar the individuals from operating immigration-related businesses and requires they collectively pay $118,000 in monetary relief. The lawsuits filed in NYS Supreme Court allege the companies were not authorized nor accredited to provide immigration legal services. Further, the Civil Rights Bureau filed suit against a Queens county woman for defrauding hundreds of immigrants out of more than $250,000 and has demanded documents and testimony from more than 80 organizations and individuals who purportedly provide immigration services.
..."
The AGs (and LEO's) of various states and localities have to deal with immigration issues of all kinds. I have no problems with State laws As long as they aren't BS, knee jerk, corporate, or discriminatory. And they are constitutional.
So yes NY tries to protect civil rights too. Good deal.
The comments were made with the personal info of many US citizens around the country including an Oregon political official.
The NY at gen is investigating for the citizens of his state.
There is no good reason given yet for Ajit Pai's non compliance.
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NY State AG webpage
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Immigration fraud is an issue of national importance affecting large segments of communities. Immigration fraud is generally defined as individuals and companies who target vulnerable immigrants by providing unauthorized and fraudulent immigration services.

As part of the Attorney General's initiative to combat immigration fraud, the Civil Rights Bureau is investigating individuals and companies who target immigrant communities with false promises of residency and citizenship or provide services without having the legal authority to do so. The Civil Rights Bureau recently entered into agreements with several individuals and entities and filed complaints against others in New York State. The agreements permanently bar the individuals from operating immigration-related businesses and requires they collectively pay $118,000 in monetary relief. The lawsuits filed in NYS Supreme Court allege the companies were not authorized nor accredited to provide immigration legal services. Further, the Civil Rights Bureau filed suit against a Queens county woman for defrauding hundreds of immigrants out of more than $250,000 and has demanded documents and testimony from more than 80 organizations and individuals who purportedly provide immigration services.
..."
The AGs (and LEO's) of various states and localities have to deal with immigration issues of all kinds. I have no problems with State laws As long as they aren't BS, knee jerk, corporate, or discriminatory. And they are constitutional.
These businesses were operating within the state of NY defrauding people living in the state of NY. That is entirely different from a publicity hungry state AG investigating comments to a Federal agency gathered from the internet. Again, if a crime was committed it is a Federal crime, should we have 50 separate attorneys general conducting investigations? Of course not.
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These businesses were operating within the state of NY defrauding people living in the state of NY. That is entirely different from a publicity hungry state AG investigating comments to a Federal agency gathered from the internet. Again, if a crime was committed it is a Federal crime, should we have 50 separate attorneys general conducting investigations? Of course not.
no. they defrauded with people alive and dead from many states. new york is investigating for their state's citizens , correct.
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no. they defrauded with people alive and dead from many states. new york is investigating for their state's citizens , correct.
The crime, if there is one, is against the Federal government meaning it is out of the NY state AG's jurisdiction. If he is so concerned about identity theft, there are no doubt millions of illegal aliens within his jurisdiction using someone else's ID to take a job from legal resident New Yorkers. But who cares about the little people looking for work when there is partisan political grandstanding to be done.
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