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Old 12-08-2017, 01:21 PM
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I am very pro gun but I often try to get my fellow gun nuts to think more about the use of deadly force and the nuances of when it should be used. Funny killing an unarmed man in AZ triggers such a response from conservatives, yet killing a kid with skittles is staunchly defended by the same bunch. Why is that?
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This is one example of why I have problems with such phrasing in the law.
Self-defense is understandable, when there is actually a threat.
Ignoring the validity of the threat and allowing some idiot with a gun to just think there is a threat is good enough? That's just plain wrong.
That very type of phrasing means a person panicking means justifiable homicide...

Note: I'm not saying people with guns are idiots. I'm saying that there are some individuals who own guns who lack common sense to tell the difference.
And in such cases, a jury or judge should be able to review the circumstances and judge accordingly.
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I am very pro gun but I often try to get my fellow gun nuts to think more about the use of deadly force and the nuances of when it should be used. Funny killing an unarmed man in AZ triggers such a response from conservatives, yet killing a kid with skittles is staunchly defended by the same bunch. Why is that?
Well, I have a new category of "pro-gun, but". The unarmed man was not charging at the officer, nor was he in any way attacking him. Trayvon, on the other hand, went out of his way to physically confront the neighborhood watch wannabe. That was a stupid action.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-plea...195800362.html

This stuff makes me sick.
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I posted about this earlier today. It is sickening what some cops are allowed to get away with. He is a murderer! At least there is a Divine justice he will have to face some day even though human justice wasn't served.
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I posted about this earlier today. It is sickening what some cops are allowed to get away with. He is a murderer! At least there is a Divine justice he will have to face some day even though human justice wasn't served.
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Who Is Daniel Shaver? Graphic Video Shows Arizona Cop Philip Brailsford Killing Texas Dad

Video of the shooting at link, horrible, just horrible.
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Even if he could reasonably argue he was in fear of his life?
Unfortunately, yes. It seems like the law should be more flexible for untrained citizen, but no. It seems to me that cops really don't like people that take the law into their own hands.

The guy came out with his hands up,... if it were me, I would have had him turn around, lay down, and put his hands behind his back. The guy was complying, but got killed for pulling up his pants.

I don't understand this "Crawl toward me shlt"
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Some "good guy with a gun" is not going to play "cop" and tell another guy to come out and lie down on the ground. However, a good guy with a gun is a d**kh**d if he unlawfully shoots another person.

A million to one says these modern day Barney Fifes are taught by some other Rambotito instructor to act lightning fast against ANY perceived threat to their candy asses. The days of real police officers are fading fast.

Others may go on defending these dumbasses. I will continue to back up only professional officers.
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A jury saw all the evidence and heard all the testimony and came to a unanimous decision that the ex-officer was not guilty.
I have to wonder why so many would think they unanimously got it wrong.
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I don't understand this "Crawl toward me shlt"
A thug is uniform was acting like a Nazi. That's how I understand it. Some people don't deserve to wear that uniform because the power goes to their heads and they act like jerks, just like that cop/murderer.
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