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You see...If this city only had more white gang members, then the database would be more diverse!...

Portland police to halt, purge all gang designations

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Portland police next month will end their more than 20-year-old practice of designating people as gang members or gang associates in response to strong community concerns about the labels that have disproportionately affected minorities.

The Police Bureau recognizes that the gang designations have led to "unintended consequences'' and served as lifelong barriers for those who have shunned the gang lifestyle and tried to get jobs, said Acting Tactical Operations Capt. Andy Shearer.

A review by Oregonian/OregonLive reporter Carli Brosseau last year found that of the 359 "criminal gang affiliates'' flagged in Portland's database as of last summer, 81 percent were part of a racial or ethnic minority. She obtained the list, names removed, only after appealing the city's attempt to keep it from public view.

Leaders from Black Male Achievement, former police Assistant Chief Kevin Modica and others have lobbied to end the designations.
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You see...If this city only had more white gang members, then the database would be more diverse!...

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If they had not been convicted of being in a gang...
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If they had not been convicted of being in a gang...
I don't believe "being in a gang" is a crime in and of itself...Therefore, there could never be a "conviction" for it...
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I don't believe "being in a gang" is a crime in and of itself...Therefore, there could never be a "conviction" for it...
So why are you ok with it screwing up their life?
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I don't believe "being in a gang" is a crime in and of itself...Therefore, there could never be a "conviction" for it...
"unintended consequences'' and served as lifelong barriers for those who have shunned the gang lifestyle and tried to get jobs

seriously, why do conservatives think labeling people gangsters without being tried and ruining their life is cool enough they are going to have an outrage about it? Do you think the police ought to be able to just label them?
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seriously, why do conservatives think labeling people gangsters without being tried and ruining their life is cool enough they are going to have an outrage about it? Do you think the police ought to be able to just label them?
So you walk around with gang emblems on your clothes, paint them on wallls, and even have them tattooed on your skin. The police are taking the emblems the gangs created and using them to watch for criminal activity. Nothing wrong with that. Kind of like keeping an eye on people who tattoo swastikas on their hands and foreheads.
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RWers are scary sometimes. Unless having swastika tattoos is illegal, I don't think the police should have the right to screw up their life either.
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So you walk around with gang emblems on your clothes, paint them on wallls, and even have them tattooed on your skin. The police are taking the emblems the gangs created and using them to watch for criminal activity. Nothing wrong with that. Kind of like keeping an eye on people who tattoo swastikas on their hands and foreheads.
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RWers are scary sometimes. Unless having swastika tattoos is illegal, I don't think the police should have the right to screw up their life either.
So, someone found to be involved with other gang members, and gang activities, should not be considered possible gang members.

Shall they self-declare?
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I don't think the police should have the right to screw up their life either.
So being in or associating with a gang isn't to blame...The police are...
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Define "is found" Police should not be allowed to say hey, that kid looks like he is in the gang and screw up the rest of his life. I know you know this.
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Shall they self-declare?
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