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Default Border Patrol 'tunnel rats' plug underground passages

I have pointed these out in a few threads and now I have a video to back it up as the Border Patrol Tunnel Rats close up another long tunnel from Mexico to the U.S.A. It is from 2009 but they have air conditioned and running water in them these days.
Have your sound on and do read the short article.

So once this stupid costly wall is built these cartels will just dig a few more of these express way tunnels and have the illegals strap on 20 to 50 Lbs. of drugs as they pass through the tunnel and drop the drugs at it's end, then leave for a bus stop or train station if they don't have someone to pick them up once in America..

This wall B.S. besides drawing America closer to bankruptcy will speed up importation of both Illegals and Drugs IMHO.. Smart move Trump.


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Border Patrol 'tunnel rats' plug underground passages

By elliot spagat, associated press

SAN DIEGO — Mar 9, 2017, 4:30 PM ET

They are known in the U.S. Border Patrol as "tunnel rats" — agents who go in clandestine passages that have proliferated on the U.S.-Mexico border over the past 20 years to smuggle drugs.

The Associated Press joined the Border Tunnel Entry Team, as it is formally known, inside an incomplete tunnel that was discovered in San Diego in 2009 — 70 feet deep, 3 feet wide, 2,700 feet long and equipped with a rail system, lighting and ventilation.

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I have pointed these out in a few threads and now I have a video to back it up as the Border Patrol Tunnel Rats close up another long tunnel from Mexico to the U.S.A. It is from 2009 but they have air conditioned and running water in them these days.
Have your sound on and do read the short article.

So once this stupid costly wall is built these cartels will just dig a few more of these express way tunnels and have the illegals strap on 20 to 50 Lbs. of drugs as they pass through the tunnel and drop the drugs at it's end, then leave for a bus stop or train station if they don't have someone to pick them up once in America..

This wall B.S. besides drawing America closer to bankruptcy will speed up importation of both Illegals and Drugs IMHO.. Smart move Trump.



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1. Cartels are not going to let people use their drug tunnels just to sneak into the country illegally.Because that would risk their tunnel being found out and destroyed.

2.No has ever said a wall will stop all illegal immigration.It will however slow it down to a trickle.

3. The wall will not bankrupt us.Heck we give away more in financial and military aid to other countries in a year than what the wall would cost. Heck if we stopped foreign aid for a year we could build the wall and still have a **** load of money to hire extra border agents to man the wall.

4.The only people who think this wall is stupid are pro-illegals and open borders tards who want people to sneak into the country illegally.
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Gee jamesrage we both have opinions and we have presented them. I agree the cartels might not br[I]ng both into one tunnel. But then if it is slowed to a trickle they lose money... Unless they find a new route to bring illegals into America,

But then if they found a new way why not use it for the drugs to. My whole point is a wall isn't going to stop either the drugs or people from getting into America and to think a costly wall will do that is foolish IMHO.


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Gee jamesrage we both have opinions and we have presented them. I agree the cartels might not br[I]ng both into one tunnel. But then if it is slowed to a trickle they lose money... Unless they find a new route to bring illegals into America,

But then if they found a new way why not use it for the drugs to. My whole point is a wall isn't going to stop either the drugs or people from getting into America and to think a costly wall will do that is foolish IMHO.


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These tunnels cost time, money and effort to build. As well as securing entry/exit points on both sides of the border and making sure those stay secret. They don't stay secret by trying to funnel in a **** load of random people illegally into the country. That would drastically increase the chance of the tunnel being discovered,merchandise and money being seized and men going to jail and all the time, money and effort being building the tunnel wasted.

The wall doesn't have to completely stop all illegal immigration and the importation of illegal drugs in order to be effective. A wall will drastically decrease illegal immigration into the country and make it harder to sneak in illegal drugs.
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And this wall doesn't? I see you didn't bother checking out the links or you would have known just how many tunnels the DEA have closed. Meaning when a cartel is making millions a week if not a day spend a bit on something that works great for a time pays for it self in one use and lines their pockets to boot.

So if your into just your own opinions without bothering with what I present we are done... You can continue but not I.
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Mebbe dey could use possums as tunnel rats...

Tunnels at US-Mexico Border Show Smugglers’ Deep Commitment
May 24, 2017 — Drug smugglers trying to tap into the United States’ highly profitable market have developed all kinds of secretive routes to deliver their illicit goods. One tactic is to go underground.
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At the U.S.-Mexico border, tunnels are a popular means of transporting illegal marijuana – a bulky drug whose distinctive odor makes it hard to get past drug-sniffing dogs and other security at border checkpoints and airports. Since 1990, more than 220 tunnels have been discovered there, including 60 in the area overseen by the U.S. Border Patrol’s San Diego office. "You see, it's an industrial area," agency spokesman Jose Hernandez says in explaining its attraction to traffickers. "We see many warehouses and many trucks passing by. It is common to see them at two in the afternoon or the morning," he adds. “It happens many times. So what [traffickers] do is they hide where everyone can see them anyway." Noise from constant truck traffic on the American side and dense urban construction on the Mexican side conceal the construction of secret tunnels.


U.S. Border Patrol personnel work near a tunnel entrance between barriers separating San Diego, California, and Tijuana, Mexico. So-called 'tunnel rats' close down clandestine passages that have proliferated on the border for smuggling drugs.

Underground investment

Drug traffickers will spend as much as $2 million on construction in hopes of big profit in return, the Drug Enforcement Administration told the Associated Press earlier this year. The DEA links most of the cross-border tunneling to Mexico’s Sinaloa drug cartel, whose boss, Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzmán used other tunnels to escape twice from Mexican prisons. He was extradited to the United States in January and awaits trial on various trafficking charges. The unfinished Galvez tunnel, discovered in 2009, was intended as a link from about 18 meters south of the Mexican border stretching 231 meters north into California’s San Diego neighborhood of Otay Mesa.

From transport to training site

Now, instead of serving as a conduit for drugs, it has become a training site for Border Patrol agents. They scramble down ladders to a passageway 20 meters deep, nearly 2 meters tall and just over a meter wide. The tunnel yields clues into tunnel engineering and equipment. Dug with drills, picks and shovels, it was outfitted with lighting, railway, telephone and ventilation systems. That’s not the most elaborate. Lance LeNoir, who leads the Border Patrol’s San Diego Intercept Team of so-called "tunnel rats," reports that agents once "intercepted 13 individuals immediately to our south in Mexico. They found the entrance underneath a bathroom floor, which actually lowered through a [hydraulic] lift system." To aid its detective work, the Border Patrol uses an assortment of complex tools, including ground-penetrating radar and sensors.


A U.S. Border Patrol agent climbs out of an entrance carved by the agency into a tunnel linking Tijuana, Mexico, and the entrance site in San Diego, Calif.

Closing the link

When a tunnel is discovered, U.S. authorities shut it down. "When we go to remediate these things, we mark the ground with an X,” LeNoir says, then “drill down to find them and fill them with cement." From 2007 to 2015, the Department of Homeland Security spent $8.7 million to block the tunnels with concrete. Its counterpart in Mexico uses a different approach. "They mostly put garbage at the entrance to the tunnel until the entrance is blocked," says Hernandez, the Border Patrol spokesman. The trash treatment is a source of conflict between Mexican and U.S. authorities because it’s not permanent. At least six tunnels were found reopened on the Mexican side. Authorities there say they don’t have the money to use cement. But the two countries continue to collaborate on blocking tunnels and traffickers. The United States views illegal drugs and smuggling as a threat to the nation’s health and security.

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These tunnels cost time, money and effort to build. As well as securing entry/exit points on both sides of the border and making sure those stay secret. They don't stay secret by trying to funnel in a **** load of random people illegally into the country. That would drastically increase the chance of the tunnel being discovered,merchandise and money being seized and men going to jail and all the time, money and effort being building the tunnel wasted.

The wall doesn't have to completely stop all illegal immigration and the importation of illegal drugs in order to be effective. A wall will drastically decrease illegal immigration into the country and make it harder to sneak in illegal drugs.
Cost the cartel money, your ing right. Say as I have heard about a million at most and in one day they bring in about 30+ million and each day there after till the DEA blocks the tunnel.

So cost is well paid for.. So try some other ploy...
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