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What charges would send them away? Assault and possibly kidnapping? Is it possible that little if any jail time will be served and only probation and community service?
Let's take just kidnapping as an example.
That's a felony.
720 ILCS 5/10-2 defines aggravated kidnapping. A person commits the offence of aggravated kidnapping, if s/he kidnaps another to obtain ransom, inflicts body harm armed with a dangerous weapon and armed with firearms. Also, a person who kidnaps a child under 13 years or a mentally retarded person commits the offence of aggravated kidnapping.

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In Illinois, kidnapping is a Class 2 felony. Aggravated kidnapping is a Class X felony. For a Class 2 felony, the sentence of imprisonment shall be not less than three years and not more than seven years. For a Class X felony, the sentence of imprisonment shall be not less than six years and not more than 30 years.
https://kidnapping.uslegal.com/state...bduction-laws/

It's possible a judge could "Brock Turner" these guys. Prosecuted for jaywalking instead of aggravated kidnapping. Cause Duffin already indicates he doesn't see this as important. Perhaps it should have been somebody in his family as the victim instead.

It would be a grotesque miscarriage of justice for community service. Just hearing about how the victim reacted should be enough to make one realize this shouldn't just be swept under the rug...
The victim is going to need a LOT of help to get through this.
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Where's BLM?
They'll prolly protest and claim the scumbags' actions were justified because of slavery or somethin' 150 years ago.
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They'll prolly protest and claim the scumbags' actions were justified because of slavery or somethin' 150 years ago.
And when they do nothing of the sort, HJ won't even bother recognizing his mistake...

This situation is akin to what anti-abortion groups do when you have an abortion clinic attack.
Not much...
Although I guess anti-abortion groups do try to weaken the laws implemented to protect abortion clinics from attacks...

BLM will probably just ignore this.
Nobody has shown how this has anything to do with them...
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Funny hoiw the racists on this board always show their racist attitudes and they don't even realize it. There has been hundreds of cases like this that were white boys at fault. But they automatically went to race as the issue.

Oh look. A white girl did it
18-Year Old Woman Charged in Beating Death of Homeless Man in Santee | NBC 7 San Diego

Oh look. White boys
Brothers Arraigned for Killing, Torture of Homeless Man, Held on $3M Bail | NBC 7 San Diego

Oh look, More white boys
Attacked homeless man in Fort Lauderdale testifies teens laughed as they hit him
Attacked homeless man in Fort Lauderdale testifies teens laughed as they hit him - Sun Sentinel

I could post this all day so why does the right here go with race????
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Funny hoiw the racists on this board always show their racist attitudes and they don't even realize it. There has been hundreds of cases like this that were white boys at fault. But they automatically went to race as the issue.
Oh look. A white girl did it
18-Year Old Woman Charged in Beating Death of Homeless Man in Santee | NBC 7 San Diego
Oh look. White boys
Brothers Arraigned for Killing, Torture of Homeless Man, Held on $3M Bail | NBC 7 San Diego
Oh look, More white boys
Attacked homeless man in Fort Lauderdale testifies teens laughed as they hit him
Attacked homeless man in Fort Lauderdale testifies teens laughed as they hit him - Sun Sentinel
I could post this all day so why does the right here go with race????
It's called "race baiting" (regardless of actual circumstances),
except when the right does it.


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What charges would send them away? Assault and possibly kidnapping? Is it possible that little if any jail time will be served and only probation and community service?
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Let's take just kidnapping as an example.
That's a felony.
720 ILCS 5/10-2 defines aggravated kidnapping. A person commits the offence of aggravated kidnapping, if s/he kidnaps another to obtain ransom, inflicts body harm armed with a dangerous weapon and armed with firearms. Also, a person who kidnaps a child under 13 years or a mentally retarded person commits the offence of aggravated kidnapping.

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In Illinois, kidnapping is a Class 2 felony. Aggravated kidnapping is a Class X felony. For a Class 2 felony, the sentence of imprisonment shall be not less than three years and not more than seven years. For a Class X felony, the sentence of imprisonment shall be not less than six years and not more than 30 years.
https://kidnapping.uslegal.com/state...bduction-laws/
And it looks like these guys ARE getting charged with AGGRAVATED KIDNAPPING.
Sentencing: not less than six years and not more than 30 years
JUST for the Aggravated Kidnapping count.



The Latest: 4 Charged in Videotaped Beating - ABC News
Prosecutors have filed hate crime and aggravated kidnapping charges against four black suspects accused of beating and taunting a white man during an attack streamed live on Facebook

Cook County prosecutors on Thursday announced charges against three 18-year-olds — Jordan Hill of Carpentersville, Brittany Covington of Chicago and Tesfaye Cooper of Chicago — and 24-year-old Tanishia Covington of Chicago.

Prosecutors say the four are also charged with aggravated unlawful restraint and aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. Three have also been charged with residential burglary.
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and you two morons are the best at race baiting......
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Symone Sanders - Not a hate crime

Good to see CNN doesn't hire idiots.

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Don Lemon - They're not evil. They just had bad home training.

Holy fuq what is in the water coolers over at CNN.

CNN's Don Lemon on Chicago Torture Video: 'I Don't Think It Was Evil' - Breitbart
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and you two morons are the best at race baiting......
Typical MrL.
Refuses topical comment.
Devolves to purely insult attacks.

Can you admit that what HJ did is race-baiting?
Or am I actually right and you're just mad because you don't want to admit it?


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Funny hoiw the racists on this board always show their racist attitudes and they don't even realize it. There has been hundreds of cases like this that were white boys at fault. But they automatically went to race as the issue.

Oh look. A white girl did it
18-Year Old Woman Charged in Beating Death of Homeless Man in Santee | NBC 7 San Diego

Oh look. White boys
Brothers Arraigned for Killing, Torture of Homeless Man, Held on $3M Bail | NBC 7 San Diego
Oh look, More white boys
Attacked homeless man in Fort Lauderdale testifies teens laughed as they hit him
Attacked homeless man in Fort Lauderdale testifies teens laughed as they hit him - Sun Sentinel
I could post this all day so why does the right here go with race????
Here's another one which ties in to what I was talking about.
Idaho high school football player accused of raping black teammate spared jail | Daily Mail Online
A football player rectally rapes a mentally disabled teammate with a coat hanger.
John R.K. Howard, 19, of Keller, Texas, was originally charged with forcible sexual penetration by a foreign object after prosecutors said he kicked a coat hanger into the victim's rectum during the October 23, 2015, incident at Dietrich High School involving three male students.
And what's the outcome?
The criminal REFUSES TO ADMIT HE DID ANYTHING WRONG ...
... BUT he gets only probation and potentially the crime wiped from his record in the future.
According to the paper, Howard submitted a modified guilty plea, in which he acknowledged he would be found guilty in a trial but maintained his innocence.

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If Howard successfully completes probation, he could have his conviction dismissed.


So the guy refuses to admit he did anything wrong (maintaining innocence) and will likely have the conviction removed from his record in the future.
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They should be tried, and if convicted, taken to the back steps of the courthouse, forced to kneel and have their brains (if any) blown out with a .45.
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