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Basically, this is just an ad hominem attack upon social conservatives.

And I am certainly a social conservative.

Contrary to your assertion, however, I am neither "xenophobic" nor "racist."

And I absolutely do not desire "White Protestant Male Supremacy" in this country.

But I do oppose the illegal entry of non-Americans into the US. (And I would not dismissively describe it as a mere "misdemeanor.")

But why would you attack all who simply wish to uphold the law?

A nation without enforceable borders, after all, is really not a nation, in any meaningful sense of the word...
"Social Conservativism" is, by definition, about the preservation of the existing social, economic, and political institutions which have always been based upon White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) Male Supremacy in the United States. If you don't agree with the preservation of WASP Male Supremacy then I would argue that you're not truly a social conservative.

The fact is we don't really know how the estimated 11.3 million aliens entered the United States. That can only be determined by the immigration courts and the burden of proof is on the US government to establish if they entered the country illegally. It's next to impossible, and cost prohibitive, for the US government to determine if a person entered the country legally or illegally many years ago. Millions were actually children that were brought here by their parents and they didn't enter the country illegally because they were not adults that could violate the law.

At best the US government can establish that they're here without proper documentation and that's a minor misdemeanor, not a felony, and it doesn't require deportation. You might not like the fact that it's a minor misdemeanor but that's all it is under the immigration law.

"Enforceable borders" refers to the ability of the nation to prevent an invasion from a foreign country and the US can easily prevent an invasion by any foreign country. It doesn't refer to the ability of a nation to prevent any living creature from crossing the border.

Perhaps more importantly is whether you support laws that have always been based upon racism and xenophobia or do you think we should repeal those laws?
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" That can only be determined by the immigration courts and the burden of proof is on the US government to establish if they entered the country illegally. It's next to impossible, and cost prohibitive, for the US government to determine if a person entered the country legally or illegally many years ago.
If they are not a citizen, and are in the United States, there should be no reason to establish if they are here illegally.

If your name is not on a Government roll of citizens you are in fact here illegally. No point in wasting time establishing that. Children of illegals, no matter the age are criminal as well.

WASP's that you hate so f'ing much are still the clear majority in the USA. Your about to find this out in November. The left is doing a fine job of removing WASPS from the Democratic party. The white majority is about to re establish it self as the majority in our country.

We will throw the liberal bullsh1t aside, and deal with this problem of illegals as we see fit.

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If they are not a citizen, and are in the United States, there should be no reason to establish if they are here illegally.

If your name is not on a Government roll of citizens you are in fact here illegally. No point in wasting time establishing that. Children of illegals, no matter the age are criminal as well.

WASP's that you hate so f'ing much are still the clear majority in the USA. Your about to find this out in November. The left is doing a fine job of removing WASPS from the Democratic party. The white majority is about to re establish it self as the majority in our country.

We will throw the liberal bullsh1t aside, and deal with this problem of illegals as we see fit.

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Just because I was born a WASP Male doesn't imply that I support WASP Male Supremacy nor should that be assumed of anyone. I don't hate WASP Males but instead hate WASP Male Supremacy that disparages and oppresses the Non-WASP and women in the United States.

No, you will not "deal with the problem of illegals" as you see fit. You will do so in compliance with the law and the US Constitution.
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The term WASP includes our women. No war on women here at all.

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Just because I was born a WASP Male doesn't imply that I support WASP Male Supremacy nor should that be assumed of anyone. I don't hate WASP Males but instead hate WASP Male Supremacy that disparages and oppresses the Non-WASP and women in the United States.

No, you will not "deal with the problem of illegals" as you see fit. You will do so in compliance with the law and the US Constitution.
How do you explain the fact that WASP's are coalescing around Trump?

Could it be the Democrats are driving them away? What is the reasoning?

This is happening nation wide. Many WASP's who don't regularly participate in voting are out in large force, and mad as hell... So what is doing this?

I would love to hear your explanation of this, and why Blacks are leaving as well...

I have my theory, as you know. But I have never heard you address this issue for the Democrats.

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