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oh yeah right one incident means all crimes against muslims should be overlooked not
There are many, including CAIR, who would want this crime committed by a Muslim torching his own mosque on Christmas Day to evaporate. Since the "hate crime" narrative by the media and CAIR has become reflexive, this situation becomes temporarily uncomfortable.

What was the payoff for Jamal in doing this? (If he did it) He must have thought it a good idea and it was relatively easy to do. The mosque is open and unlocked every day from 7am to 7pm and there are 5 prayer times. Business's are closed on Christmas and he lives within walking distance so there isn't a car to be ID'd. However, there is video monitoring by adjacent stores that he might not have accounted for. It's hard to believe that this was planned and carried out by anyone other than him. However, the payoff was the reliable and reflexive news coverage with the anticipated statements from CAIR and the invoking of hate crime victimization. It works every time and CAIR adds it to their tally board and pads the stats. Another news article will appear about "fear of backlash" related to Paris or SB.
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There are many, including CAIR, who would want this crime committed by a Muslim torching his own mosque on Christmas Day to evaporate. Since the "hate crime" narrative by the media and CAIR has become reflexive, this situation becomes temporarily uncomfortable.

What was the payoff for Jamal in doing this? (If he did it) He must have thought it a good idea and it was relatively easy to do. The mosque is open and unlocked every day from 7am to 7pm and there are 5 prayer times. Business's are closed on Christmas and he lives within walking distance so there isn't a car to be ID'd. However, there is video monitoring by adjacent stores that he might not have accounted for. It's hard to believe that this was planned and carried out by anyone other than him. However, the payoff was the reliable and reflexive news coverage with the anticipated statements from CAIR and the invoking of hate crime victimization. It works every time and CAIR adds it to their tally board and pads the stats. Another news article will appear about "fear of backlash" related to Paris or SB.

who cares?


ok i got that out of my system.

naturally anyone would think this a hate crime due to the many. this is an anomaly. dont make a mountain out of it.
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ok i got that out of my system.

naturally anyone would think this a hate crime due to the many. this is an anomaly. dont make a mountain out of it.
CAIR cares.
CAIR is in the mountain making business except in situations where mole hills are preferable.
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CAIR cares.
CAIR is in the mountain making business except in situations where mole hills are preferable.
This is all that they said and I don't see the problem do you?

Mustafaa Carroll, the director of the Houston chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), called on law enforcement to investigate whether the fire was a hate crime.

"Because of the recent spike in hate incidents targeting mosques nationwide, we urge law enforcement authorities to investigate a possible bias motive for this fire," Carroll told Click 2 Houston.
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ok excuse me for not getting it but why should i care what cair cares about?
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ok excuse me for not getting it but why should i care what cair cares about?
What is the chance that another Christmas Day mosque attack being blamed on an Islamophobic/hate crime force is really done by a Muslim? It happened last year in Fresno. Also, in 2010, a mosque arson fire was started by a member.


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It wasn't reasonable...There was zero evidence showing a hate crime...The ONLY reason anyone would think that is due to partisan pre-conceived notions...
I disagree...^

Especially here in Texas with people that hate Muslims in general redd.....

~ ASKING for an investigation is just a probe....

More likely than not scenarios are what the cops are for.....

In the end it wasn't a hate crime and I'm glad it wasn't, hope you are too....

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I disagree...^

Especially here in Texas with people that hate Muslims in general redd.....

~ ASKING for an investigation is just a probe....

More likely than not scenarios are what the cops are for.....

In the end it wasn't a hate crime and I'm glad it wasn't, hope you are too....

I would still like to know how, in the name of Allah's butthole, a crime can be labeled "hate" or "love". Liberal weenie explanations will not be accepted.
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This "uptick" in anti-muslim hate crime is worth looking at. What are the statistics and criteria for the list. This is some data from CAIR related to the targeting of mosques and they say there have been 71 incidents broken down in 4 categories as of 2 weeks ago.
Damage/destruction/vandalism 29
Harassment 8
Intimidation 29
Zoning 5
total 71

Last year there were 20. The incidents aren't that many and it seems that if cases aren't solved then they are still left on the tally.
A 2013 example of "intimidation" was a question about what would be taught at a proposed new mosque in Mt. Sinai NY at zoning approval meetings. Somehow that made the list even though the mosque was approved.


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Bail is set at 150K and he had to turn in his passport. Can he even post bail money? He has 11 kids, 6 are at his home, and he's at the mosque 5 x daily every day. Besides being a devout Muslim, his occupation has not been mentioned.

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Ju...#photo-9166501


There was another mosque arson in Southwest Houston in May of 2011 that received much publicity. 2 young masked men were caught on poor quality video fleeing the scene but no news reports of anyone being caught. Mustafa Carroll of CAIR provides the familiar comments concerning a hate crime investigation and CAIR reports there was a "spike" in vandalism nationwide since the death of Osama Bin Laden.


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