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Judge sentences teen to 10-years of church for DUI death | Mail Online
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1) Is the judge sentencing him to church unconstitutional or illegal? Many people have been sentenced to church before and to my knowledge there hasn't been a precedent setting case to address this. Furthermore, the judge proposed the idea to the prosecutor, the family of the victim, and the offender's lawyer. All 3 sides agreed to the sentence. 2) Assuming this is a legal sentence, do you feel it is acceptable? Many would say he needs to go into prison, while the family of the victim doesn't want to see his life wasted or thrown out. It is a tough call, a toss up. Thoughts?
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Conceptually I like the sentence. I LOVE the idea that we unbind judges from these stupid mandatory sentencing guidelines (federal and many states) and allow them to do what they do best. Make judgment calls. Mandatory sentencing, though great to an outsider, creates serious problems when there are better solutions for the fact scenario before the judge.
HOWEVER, practically, I have some serious concerns about this sentence. Linking any sort of sentence to religion is, to my mind, a violation of fundamental constitutional rights that cannot be violated. While today it may be all well and good that the child has found God and is willing to go to church, let's fast forward a couple of years down the road and see what happens if he decides he's a devout atheist or muslim, or Jew, or Wiccan... Well that screws with the sentencing and who handles the sentencing and... It's just a night mare. And IF there isn't a change, you've used government to force religion on the man violating his core first amendment rights. Tough call.
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violation of his constitutional rights, IMO. I cannot abide a government that can force anyone to attend mythological ramblings on a regular basis.
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*** as for church. a court case isn't tried in a vacuum. this is a christian atmosphere and the judge seems to think the teen will best respond to that. If it was a Buddhist area maybe the punishment would be different. but I see nothing wrong with this particular condition. **should a teen go to prison for 10 years? Not unless he set out to kill or did reckless crimes over and over. I feel as the family it would be a waste.
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![]() Also, it presents the possibility for preferential treatment. Suppose another teen does the exact same thing. But this one's an atheist. You can't sentence him to church without directly showing you're violating his first amendment rights. So do you send him to jail instead? ![]() You're presenting a situation where two people of different religious outlooks receive disparate treatment. Based on their religion. Constitutional violation.
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I have to wonder how drunk someone can be with a BAC of .006. On a more 'twisted' note.......I wonder if the Judge assigned a denomination for that church? Would a Satan worshiping church be accepted? ![]()
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Is the .006 a mistake? It seems to me you could get that level by walking past a drink.
I have no problem with this sentence for a couple of reasons. First, it sounds like this was part of a plea agreement, so there was consent. Second, he commited a crime that resulted in another's death. In my opinion he surrendered his rights at that point, if the Judge thought church would help I have no problem with forcing him to go. |
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