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Some people have some nerve.

Sorry, if you rape a woman and impregnate her, you should lose all rights to ever see that child again, unless she gives permission.

And regardless of the woman's decision, he should still be forced to pay child support.

Don't like it? Then do not rape women.

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A Massachusetts man is seeking visitation rights to the child he fathered after raping a 14-year-old girl, setting the stage for a legal battle in the Bay State.

The teen mother was raped by the 20-year-old family friend three years ago and says she still suffers from severe anxiety and depression. She says she is terrified at the prospect of having any dealings with her tormentor, reports MyFoxBoston.com.

The victim and her family are fighting back, saying the toddler’s biological father is only showing interest in the family now that the child support bill is coming due FoxNews.com is not identifying any of the subjects to protect the rape victim’s identity.

"She got raped at 14. She decided to keep her baby. And now she has to hand her baby over for a visit with her rapist?" the victim’s mother told the station.

The man, who the victim knew from church and who was the boyfriend of her friend’s older sister, pleaded guilty to statutory rape in Norfolk Superior Court last year. Prosecutor sought a 3-to-5-year sentence, but the judge in the case gave the man 16 years’ probation with the condition he acknowledges that he is the father of the baby and submits to family court orders, reports MyFoxBoston.com.

The family has hired attorney Wendy Murphy, who believes the problem stems from the sentence imposed in the criminal case, reports MyFoxBoston.com. She said making the man submit to a family court order opened the door to the visitation request.

"The consequences of sentencing this man to probation for 16 years, which is really until the child becomes an adult, and making him declare paternity and pay child support, includes that this guy gets a legal father-child relationship out of the deal," Murphy told the station.

Murphy has filed a motion with the court, asking the judge to amend the sentencing and order the man to pay restitution instead of child support. This would force him to support the child but not give him visitation and other parental rights.

"All this family wants is to cut the cord. Get the rapist out of their lives. And if the judge wants to help them financially that's great. But let's call it restitution, not child support," Murphy told MyFoxBoston.com. "What kind of legal system commands a toddler into a relationship with the man who raped her mother?"
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Some people have some nerve.

Sorry, if you rape a woman and impregnate her, you should lose all rights to ever see that child again, unless she gives permission.

And regardless of the woman's decision, he should still be forced to pay child support.

Don't like it? Then do not rape women.



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While I might agree with your passion, that's a damned slippery slope.
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The perp gets probation for stat rape and want's visitation rights??? ..
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The perp gets probation for stat rape and want's visitation rights??? ..
That made me do a double-take too. Probation for statutory rape? The judge should be ashamed of himself.
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Wow. So what is he going to tell the kid when he is older? How will he explain how him and his mother met?
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How will he explain how him and his mother met?
She played hard to get?
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She played hard to get?
What's that old saying, "Its not rape if you yell surprise"?
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It's statutory rape, which means it was actually consensual. I really wish they would use a different term than rape because it's not ****ing rape.

So, there's a HUGE difference between a girl who consented to sex with someone and got pregnant and him wanting visitation rights, and someone who was actually raped and her rapist wanting visitation rights. The latter would be abhorrent. The former, not so much.
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It's statutory rape, which means it was actually consensual. I really wish they would use a different term than rape because it's not ****ing rape.

So, there's a HUGE difference between a girl who consented to sex with someone and got pregnant and him wanting visitation rights, and someone who was actually raped and her rapist wanting visitation rights. The latter would be abhorrent. The former, not so much.
Two people having consensual sex and having a child should not result in the father being denied the right to see his child or the child denied the right to know his/her father. Punishing the child for the crimes of the father is a BAD idea. Had this been a violent rape, I'd have a different opinion (one that included pliers, fire ants, rubbing alcohol and being staked out in the desert with your eyelids cut off), but this was consensual and the child should know his/her father. There have been millions (billions??) of children in this world born into the exact same situation and they have known and loved and been loved by thier fathers.
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