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Old 02-13-2012, 06:40 PM
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Mine too. I guess we're insane. No wait... we just came of age in the '90s.
Doesn't that pretty much mean the same thing?
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Since women seeking the procedure are criminalized by a patriarchal system, they must seek to have this procedure done, not in clean, certified and inspected clinics, but in unsanitary and hidden locations by shady characters.

If a young woman or girl wishes to have this procedure performed on her own body, what possible right does any man or woman for that matter have to prevent her? In fact, a minor ought to be able to have this done without the permission or knowledge of her parents, should she not?

Since the cultures of many women considers intact women to be far less desirable and less marriageable, our imposition of our own morality materially damages the prospects for life, wealth, and fulfillment for these women.

Obliviously the issues of public funding and mandatory insurance provision of elective abortion and female circumcision are closely paralleled and very, very easy to compare. Almost exactly the same arguments apply with equal force to both.

Clearly, if we are going to be required to allow and pay for elective abortions, we must allowe and pay for female circumcisions. Any position to the contrary is the unfair and unwarranted imposition or someone else's morality.
This is disgusting. No women ever wanted this. It happens only in the most patriarchal and anti-female societies. It is women who fight it and men who keep the rules in place. You make this legal here and you can bet it will be men like you who force it on women who like having orgasms. That idea is just too liberated to tolerate, the idea that women should enjoy sex. Why it might lead to sex outside of marriage by women who can not control themselves.

If clitorectomy is OK< then castration should be allowed too. I mean penis castration, not the testicles. If women had any power, maybe that would have been the rule. After all stray, undisciplined, penises are responsible for 100 percent of the rape in the world. Far more useful to cut off penises than clitorises!
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This is disgusting. No women ever wanted this. It happens only in the most patriarchal and anti-female societies. It is women who fight it and men who keep the rules in place. You make this legal here and you can bet it will be men like you who force it on women who like having orgasms. That idea is just too liberated to tolerate, the idea that women should enjoy sex. Why it might lead to sex outside of marriage by women who can not control themselves.

If clitorectomy is OK< then castration should be allowed too. I mean penis castration, not the testicles. If women had any power, maybe that would have been the rule. After all stray, undisciplined, penises are responsible for 100 percent of the rape in the world. Far more useful to cut off penises than clitorises!
It's perfectly legal to perform in the US.
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I guess I am talking what is allowable by culture, not law. I think OC's argument stinks, because it is not a good analogy to anything that is paid for by insurance.

I have been watching women fight against clitorectomies in Africa for years. Men seem to like them, women believe they must suffer them if they wish to marry in their culture.

Since no one has ever even suggested that removing penises be a cultural norm and there is no other equivalent to a clitorectomy, this discussion is a stupid exercise against what insurance should pay for or not. Even men who give up their balls, tend to keep their penises- except some transsexuals who keep them, but turned inside out, but that is a different dynamic.

I suggest a culture who took off the penises and left the balls, makes no more sense than taking off the clitoris- and the addition of who should pay for it is like discussing the number of angels dancing on the head of a pin- highly, "let's pretend" kind of fake argument.
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